On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:25 am, Dave Laird wrote:
> Good morning, Lorne...
>
> On Monday 20 January 2003 09:01 pm, Lorne wrote:
> > I know this isn't what you are going to want to hear, but I've had
> > Hauppauge PCI TV cards (Actually I have 3 of them currently) and I've had
> > the ATI all in wonder radeon and a newer one a few months ago. I've had
> > nothing but trouble with the ATI cards. I've had them in 4 different
> > computers, XP, ME, and 98. Drivers don't matter. I had it up and running
> > in
>
> I was somewhat *startled* to discover that the drivers for Windows 98 and
> Windows ME both had substantial problems. I sent the card back to ATI for
> replacement when the first card wouldn't initialize the BIOS. They were
> very good, actually, about troubleshooting the card, and about getting me
> another card. That *really* surprised me, given the bad experiences I had
> in the past.
>
> > Linux 8.2, but it is was just flat erratic and unstable. Support for ATI
> > sucks big time. Ever try to call those folks? I've fought with ATI
> > products for 2 years now. I will never go back. I now have NVIDIA chipset
> > video card and HAUPPAUGE tv card and have no problems at all in any OS
> > I've choses so far.
>
> After getting this card working with xawtv earlier this evening, and after
> consideration of what praise you gave for Hauppage cards, I may simply get
> a Hauppage card for my own use. The guy whose system now has a working ATI
> card is happy, and now that I've had a bit of experience with xawtv and the
> interfaces involved, I'm feeling a lot more confident about it.
>
> > I fairness I think the worst thing is their drivers, but who knows. Good
> > luck man.
>
> Thanks. The ATI card is working, although perhaps not as well as I'd like
> it tow work. However, I think for my own use, I'm simply going to go get a
> Hauppage card and see how that works out.
>
I hate to disparidge ATI. I DID use an ATI card for about year. It was always 
a fight though. My XP box hung on a regular basis. I initially blamed the 
other hardware. After an annoying 6 months, I tried it on my wife's machine. 
Same thing. It was a Dell dude. I then tried it on my son's machine. Even 
worse. Bought complete new hardware. Newer machine for poppa. :) Same crap, 
except MUCH MUCH worse. I of course blamed it on the motherboard. Took it 
back and got another. Same thing. Changed motherboard brands. I mean BAD! By 
this time, I'm starting to doubt that everybody is wrong but ATI. I bumped 
into a young fellow at the computer store and he about spit out his soda when 
I said I was trying to use ATI. He said Nvidia was the way to go. I knew from 
past experience that Hauppage was good, so returned the ATI card, got the 
original MB back, got a T4400? Nvidia card with 128mb of ram and BAM! Not a 
whit of problems since. So there you have my tail of woe. I don't know if 
they take short cuts with their stuff, but if you look at their drivers, they 
are constantly updating fixing, fixing again, updating.... What is wrong with 
this picture? Folks are having grief with them! I just don't have the time or 
patience anymore. 

Do they work. yes, but how stable are they? I'm sure that on some 
combinationof hardware they are wonderful. But this is my experience. Of 
course I'm glad you had a good experience with tech support. I sure hope they 
have improved from what I got. They won't last long if they don't get it 
together. IMHO. 
> Dave


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