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Good morning, Lorne...

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 07:23 pm, Lorne wrote:

> I hate to disparidge ATI. I DID use an ATI card for about year. It was
> always a fight though. My XP box hung on a regular basis. I initially
> blamed the other hardware. After an annoying 6 months, I tried it on my
> wife's machine. Same thing. It was a Dell dude. I then tried it on my son's

After reading about the number of "incompatibility issues" (translated to mean
it doesn't work with this platform) and trying it initially with XP, I
finally dumped XP entirely and stuck with Windows 98. This was, of course,
just shortly after XP arrived. *Never*, ever ever use a Microsoft product
when it is a relative newcomer. You have to wait for the patches and upgrades
to arrive before you can use it. <sly grin> 

> machine. Even worse. Bought complete new hardware. Newer machine for poppa.
> :) Same crap, except MUCH MUCH worse. I of course blamed it on the
> motherboard. Took it back and got another. Same thing. Changed motherboard
> brands. I mean BAD! By this time, I'm starting to doubt that everybody is
> wrong but ATI. I bumped into a young fellow at the computer store and he
> about spit out his soda when I said I was trying to use ATI. He said Nvidia
> was the way to go. I knew from past experience that Hauppage was good, so
> returned the ATI card, got the original MB back, got a T4400? Nvidia card
> with 128mb of ram and BAM! Not a whit of problems since. So there you have

See? If I had discovered this forum before now, I would have already made the
transition to Hauppage a long time ago. However, through patching and
perseverence, I now have the ATI All-in-Wonder-Pro AGP working fine under
Linux. If anyone else wants to know the mystical secrets to success, I'll
post them here, otherwise keep them to myself. (It takes less than five
minutes, based upon my experience). 

> my tail of woe. I don't know if they take short cuts with their stuff, but
> if you look at their drivers, they are constantly updating fixing, fixing
> again, updating.... What is wrong with this picture? Folks are having grief
> with them! I just don't have the time or patience anymore.

Were it not for getting it work under Linux, it would have gone into the
rather large box in the closet marked "FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT" written on the
outside. Migod, there are things in that box I haven't even *touched* in over
five years. Some development process, huh?  8->

> Do they work. yes, but how stable are they? I'm sure that on some
> combinationof hardware they are wonderful. But this is my experience. Of
> course I'm glad you had a good experience with tech support. I sure hope
> they have improved from what I got. They won't last long if they don't get
> it together. IMHO.

You are quite right. I got lucky the one time, but since I am considering
building a really high-end workstation by the beginning of spring, you can
bet I will be purchasing a Hauppage TV card to go with it for my own use.
Getting the ATI working for a customer actually *addicted* me to television
and video on the desktop.

However, to avoid the moderator's wrath, perhaps we should start a scholarly
discussion of how to get streaming video working under Mandrake Linux and
KDE, perhaps. I still haven't begun to explore/exploit that one yet, as I
understand it requires a kernel patch, something I'm *never* fond of doing
unless it is mandatory. 8-) What the heck, the week's young, isn't it? 8-) 

Dave
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Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project 
Web Page:   http://www.kharma.net updated 01/20/2003
Year 2 of running Mandrake Linux workstation on a 100% Microsoft-free system.
                                           
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