Chuck, I know that they can and do design entire aircraft without using wind 
tunnels, I'm sure that with the software out now, they can design and test race 
car bodies.
   
  CR

Dave Craddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Chuck ,you obviously know Ted James,he and Nancy are most acomplished 
racers,I'm curious how he measured the results he got?
Dave Craddock
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Voboril" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] new body for KBS and Q-cars


> Chris,
> CFD is still in its infancy. Honest.
> CFD only gives you clues about portions of a car shape.
>
> One has to go back and forth between track measurements and CFD CAD 
> modeling to get it fairly right.
> and if you have the resources, between wind tunnel tests, too.
> Wind tunnel work will still probably get a company to an optimum design 
> far before someone w/out one whoonly has CFD.
> New wind tunnels are still being built.
>
> As an example-Ted James, who bought the latest Stohr WF-1, has discovered 
> it makes less measured DF than his old AMAC that he had tweaked and 
> tweaked upon for years.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Chris Reinhardt 
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [F500] new body for KBS and Q-cars
>>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:32:56 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> Chuck, if you have some really good fluid dynamics software, there's no 
>> need for a wind tunnel, Lee does...
>>
>> CR
>>
>>Chuck Voboril wrote:
>> I might add that the dominant Stohr DSR's have never seen the inside of 
>> a
>>wind tunnel either.
>>This F500 design passes the aero "eyeball" test as well as any.
>>
>>
>>Chuck Voboril
>>
>>
>>
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