Hi Dave, I wondered where you were. Hope you had fun. I know it's been a barrel of monkeys here :-).
Dave, our goal is to update the Vees so that they can be competitive with our cars. Doesn't mean they have to be class champion but just that they have to be in the hunt. At the present time, they are not. The results over the past years support that. I'm sure you have read the comments about Nardin so I won't go over our position on that issue. We can't protect people from a Nardin or a Kramar or a Voboril. So there's no point in going there. But we can try to maintain what this class was all about when it was formed; and that was a promise of parity. Drivers have to beat other drivers, we can't move that out of the equation. We have no problem with comments, even negative ones if presented appropriately and specifically backed by supportable information, not wild ass guesses. But some feel they have to say something that questions our integrity to get their message across :-(. We do not think that these proposed mods will make them a C Mod car or a killer F Mod car. We obviously think that they will improve the Vees status in the class. It's our job to maintain parity, which is currently lacking. Ok, how much time is an LSD/locked rear worth on a 50 second course? I don't know, every course is different, every car is different, every surface is different. We have to look at the entire picture and then make a decision. That's not such an easy thing to do. You should hear the comments about that possibility from the Vees and why it's going to cost them a $1000.00 and possibly more weight just to have the same ability to put power down as the 500s do ;-(. You talk about tight corners; they are at a disadvantage compared to us. They are a much larger car and get to sling a basic 200 more pounds around with a 1938 design for their suspension and front end components. Will a LSD/locked rear help? Yes. Will it overcome their size and inability to get through those sections as we do, no, I don't think so. I guess that doesn't enter into the picture for some of us :-). It amazes me - then again maybe not - that some in the F Mod 500 group scream that all this will make the Vee a killer and their cars outdated. The Vees, on the other hand, feel that these options won't do hardly enough to allow them to run with the 500s. So the MAC collectively get to play Solomon and I get to spend quality time with John :-). Something I needed to do in my life :-). Someone once said that "If both sides are upset, then we are on the right track." Bottom line here Dave is, we have to do something and we would prefer to make a slower car faster then a faster car slower. Of course, as John says, that's probably a stupid idea :-). Everybody has an opinion but essentially our goal is to bring them somewhat into the world of a more modern formula car. Now as for the Kawi, what would you prefer, nitrous, a turbo, or a supercharger? Maybe Voboril as a contract driver? We're easy, a real pushover, just ask :-). Art -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim's Lawn Shop Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [F500] FM Autocrosser ALERT! Art, I've been away playing for a few days but just took time to read the MAC proposed changes for the vees, I think you guys maybe just got snookered! I've only driven two vees( about 10 runs total) and one was a complete turd lacking only dull brown paint, but the addition of the limited slip in itself is going to be worth a fair amount off tight corners. Both cars I drove wanted to spin the inside wheel. How much time are you looking to give them on say a 50 second course, 1/2 second....1 second.....2 seconds? Is the goal to move them into C-mod? I don't really care how this comes out, but if you do and want to make things fair maybe give em the chassis OR the engine mods, but not both. BTW....when was the last time a Kaw powered car won a well attended tour or the Nationals....what are you going to do for them? Dave Phaneuf ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
