On the eformula f500 forum, Sammye wrote the following in response to  
my request for a better F5 recruiting description:
> "A Formula 500 racing car is excellent for entry into the ranks of  
> open-wheel racing.
>
> Equipped with 2-stroke engines and constant variable (CVT)  
> transmissions, these simple, but powerful, cars are capable of  
> speeds well over 100 mph.
>
> The fun doesn't stop on the road race track. Many F500's challenge  
> the autocross course as well, making this one of the most versatile  
> formula cars in existence.
>
> One would think that such power and versatility would come with a  
> matching price tag. Wrong! New F500's are moderately priced and  
> competitive pre-owned cars are usually available, making these cars  
> especially appealing to the budget-minded racer."
>
> Just my two cents."
> Sammye

Perhaps you could use this or adapt it. No one responded yet on  this  
list.

Regards,
Tony Jagodnik
NER SoloII FM 6 '87 KBS Mk3 F440
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Mar 16, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Rob Howden wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Would anyone like to provide me with the basis of a class overview for
> F500 that I can post as a 'Sticky' at the top of the F500 'General
> Discussion' forum on EFCN.
>
> Take care,
>
> Rob Howden
> Publisher / Editor-in-Chief
> - eKartingNews.com
> - eKartingNews.ca
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> dan hester
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [F500] Forum vs Mailing List
>
> I agree, no one knows about it, any time i put the car on a trailer  
> and
> go
> somewhere people ask all the time what is it where do ya race it how
> cool is
> that etc. Exposure is key, and that is something that is severely
> lacking,
> even with the lack of support and the outright disreguard the scca has
> for
> the class if numbers were to improve and grow it could survive.
> Getting interested people into a car for a ride is a big help too.  
> once
> you
> get an interested person out there, thier usually either hooked or  
> tell
> you
> your crazy.
> I am usually the one that posts the reality of the board denying any
> improvements in this class as other classes get plenty of rule changes
> and
> attention, but recently i have decided to try and pitch in and help
> instead
> of just bitch about it.
> I think an arrive and drive F500 type promotion would be awesum,  
> and if
> we
> were smart about it, and the way it was prepped you get some serious
> exposure for the investment. attach some type of charity to it and  
> boom
> your
> in the news.
> I also think the economy has a lot to do with the drop in numbers for
> the
> class, a lot of people running 500 are usually running on the edge of
> the
> available $$ they have for fun stuff, wondering where they were  
> going to
> get
> tire money etc. that was the case with me back in 94 when i started in
> F500,
> had to skip races cuz i didnt have any tire left.
> Jay novak had made a post, asking for ideas on how to cut cost to run
> F500
> well i think this is an important issue and some more effort should be
> put
> into that as well !
> Some guys were teaming up together as racing teams with 2 or 3 cars  
> and
> through a group effort only had to have minimal spare sparts to run  
> all
> three, one spare engine if someone blew one it was covered etc. maybe
> some
> of the drivers need to team up as racing teams and get the cost of
> spares
> and support down, this would considerably help too, also when  
> traveling
> etc,
> trips start costing quite a bit, now if you can pull one big  
> trailer and
> 2
> vehicles verson 3 trailers and 3 support cars theres a lot of $$$ just
> in
> gas alone.
> I remeber driving form waterford to road america in wisconsin for a
> national
> race, i know i spent about 1500.00 just to make that trip  so if you
> could
> split that up a bit ,that alone could help the class.
>
> Just some ideas........
> Dan
>
>
>> From: "Rob Howden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: [F500] Forum vs Mailing List
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:20:22 -0400
>>
>> Chris...
>>
>> The F500 community needs to realize that the people who we attract to
>> www.eformulacarnews.com come in by surfing and Google searching the
>> sport.  They also come from the karting community, in which we are  
>> big.
>> We have many banner ads for EFCN on our karting website
>> (www.ekartingnews.com), as well as in our magazines.  This is a good
>> group to market to.
>>
>> That said, I think the biggest problem with F500 (and other open  
>> wheel
>> classes) is simply that no one knows about it.  We need to do as much
> as
>> we can to build exposure about F500, whether it's by taking your  
>> car to
>> a go-kart race or by putting together an overview of your program to
>> send to the local newspaper.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Rob Howden
>> Publisher / Editor-in-Chief
>> - eKartingNews.com
>> - eKartingNews.ca
>> - eFormulaCarNews.com
>> - FormulaCar Magazine
>> Ph: 519-624-2003
>> Fax: 519-624-0053
>> P.O. Box 580
>> Cambridge, Ontario
>> Canada  N1R 5W1
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Chris Greenwald
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:27 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [F500] Forum vs Mailing List
>>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Thank you for the reminder. Prior to getting into F500, I had checked
>> your message board; but had found no real information. Hopefully more
>> members of the mailing list are willing to give the forum a try.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:06 PM, Rob Howden wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I posted this once, but probably to the wrong topic.
>>>
>>> As Chris has stated, there is already a forum for the Formula 500
>>> community set up and running at www.eformulacarnews.com.  I pay a
>>> full-time moderator and we support F500 more than any other
>>> motorsports
>>> media source in the world.  If we need to adjust our F500 forum to
>>> include different headings and sub-sections etc, that's fine with
>>> me.  I
>>> can also give anyone you see fit moderator status for the F500 forum
>>> alone.
>>>
>>> That stated, anything I read of starting a separate forum really
>>> upsets
>>> me.  If you guys head off and start your own forum, you can kiss
>>> any of
>>> my support good-bye.  I bust my ass running a business to support
>>> formula car racing, I attend events, and I pay money out of my own
>>> pocket to pay my staff to publicize this sport.  The existing
>>> forums out
>>> there (Spec Miata / Apexspeed) are done by enthusiasts and they
>>> serve a
>>> purpose, and that's great, but we are the ones who cover the events,
>>> spend time on the road away from out families covering racing and
> work
>>> our asses off to produce a publication.  Our website relies on
> traffic
>>> (ie. views) to sell advertising and we need forum traffic to supply
>>> our
>>> advertisers with the value they are looking for.  We need the
>>> support of
>>> the F500 community.
>>>
>>> To be honest, FormulaCar Magazine and eformulacarnews.com have made
>>> very
>>> little money yet....it's going to have to change soon.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Rob Howden
>>> Publisher / Editor-in-Chief
>>> - eKartingNews.com
>>> - eKartingNews.ca
>>> - eFormulaCarNews.com
>>> - FormulaCar Magazine
>>> Ph: 519-624-2003
>>> Fax: 519-624-0053
>>> P.O. Box 580
>>> Cambridge, Ontario
>>> Canada  N1R 5W1
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
>>> Chris Reinhardt
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:35 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [F500] Forum vs Mailing List
>>>
>>>  Guys, isn't there already a F500 forum on Formula Car Mag website?
>>>
>>>   CR
>>>
>>> Stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   Has anyone thought to ask the ApexSpeed guys if they would offer
> an
>>> F500 section? They recently added an FM section, so they aren't
>>> exactly
>>> fixated on any one class. You would have the benefit of being able
> to
>>> track the on-going issues in other like-minded classes while
> non-F500
>>> guys could see that you are a thriving community struggling with the
>>> same issues and are they. If everybody throws in a $10 annual
> donation
>>> the financials would covered and no one from here would have to go
>>> through the steep learning curve to get a forum up and running. Just
> a
>>> thought. Stan
>>>
>>> edward capullo wrote: I for one would prefer the forum setup to
>>> free my
>>> mailing list. I will come
>>> back from a weekend away and find as many as 80 or more messages. My
>>> natural
>>> curiosity prevents me from just automatically deleting any except
>>> obvious
>>> junk items so I lose a lot of time reading the emails. I prefer the
>>> nice
>>>
>>> setup that Apex Speed and Sports Racing have where their forums are
>>> organized by categories. For example on the sports racer site you
> have
>>> separate groupings for technical, driving, aerodynamics etc. I don't
>>> know
>>> what it costs to run such a forum format but I am a $$ contributor
> to
>>> the
>>> Apexspeed site and would entertain contributing to a F500 site if
>>> it was
>>> on
>>> the forum format. I certainlyu agree that it would be easier for new
>>> people
>>> to call up such a site without having to rely on email type
> operations
>>> as
>>> they do now.
>>> Capt E.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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