Steve, that's a poor comparison, you do not have a current motor availible.... I'm sorry but I don't know what your experience is with regard to motorcycle engine oil systems are, but I think West Racing probably knows more than the both of us, look at their website, call them up, they use a wet sump system, it works..... There are also a couple of atleratives, or hybrid systems. You can use the stock oil pump with a drysump pan, with a external scavenge pump. These pumps are pretty cheap and they can be mounted where the water pump is driven from. Then you use an electric water pump. The drysump pan is basically a flat plate on the bottom of the cases with 4 pickups to scavenge the oil. What do you think the yearly piston invoice is for a national level Rotax? CR
Steven Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No Chris, drysumps aren't necessarily evil, just EXPENSIVE. You are correct sir, there are several deep pans for roadracing but that doesn't mean they work. Lots of stuff sold via info-mercials proves product don't need to be effective to be sold. You missed "the point" of what I was saying. Its all about price and feasability. If you have to order a pan, then take the bike motor to your local shop have a "roadrace" pan installed you have started down an expensive path. Again, If you have to order a high volume pump for your new snazzy pan or an entire dry sump system, you're then at or above the cost of one our current engines. That was my point. And yes, we can move on......but its easier to move with an engine that has oil. Chris wrote: Steve, others again, there are several purpose built non drysump pans out there for motorcycle auto road racing applications.... Drysumps are not nessicary evil. Can we move on??? CR Steven Dodd wrote: Gentlemen, The oil pan debate (stock vs deep vs pressurised/accusump) is a perfect example of the crazy path that some are venturing down. Jay just heralded in favor of a "deep oil pan" to keep it "cheap" . C'mon, wake up this is a great example of immediate departure from stock bike motors and thus, bigger dollars. And, to Chris R, our cars are not micro sprints. We turn left, right and brake. We cant just go with a deep pan and call everything good. Most GT cars run pressurised systems because of the danger of starvation. You think we pull less cornering forces than they do? If you don't see the dangers of this soon becoming a high dollar class READ your GCR . Now moncoques are allowed. Bike engines maybe next. I bet Lee Stohr can build you a heck of a monocoque bike motor car if you pony up the necessary bucks. I bet Jay would too. Be thankful that your current cars are faster and lighter than anything else under 35k new. Go have some fun. Steven Dodd Texas --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
