All,

I do not take exception to what Steven said. I think is was spot on. I do
not think his use of the term "race", "racing" "track" meant that he was
saying that any input should be restricted to those that are in the GCR
"racing" program and that soloists that "race" on a "track" should be
excluded. I believe that he meant that the terms "race" or "track" was all
inclusive. 

And I agree with Jim, I do think he was addressing an individual or
individuals on this list who have done nothing in an SCCA environment with
"our" cars nor are even members. 

More often that I would like to hear, soloists say they "race" or refer to
the autox site as a "track". So, I think some of you soloists need to
lighten up some and give Steven a break :-).

And Lee, yes, the SRs are based upon the GCR but we have in the past, and
will continue to in the future, diverge ourselves from the GCR if we think
the CRB has authorized or changed F500 or 440s in a performance manner that
is unnecessary or would upset the classing balance within F Mod. Although we
would prefer to stay as close to the GCR as possible, we are not at all
glued to it's use. 

You might want to remember that we have a slightly different environment
then the racing folks in that we have other cars of different design in the
class and there has to be a certain amount of equality between different
vehicles that the GCR racing group do not have to consider. So to those
soloists who are amoured with shocks and the addition of unproven equal MC
engines to the F Mod type snowmobile powered, puck suspended cars in F Mod
now, you might want to think about that a little more :-). 

Art

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Dodd
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:30 PM
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Subject: [F500] Participation & who are the Participants

Chris and many others,
To Quote John Ulrich "Racers Race"....  Mind you, you sir don't currently
race in F5.  Many of you are not  currently entitled to voicing any opinion
on how to grow a field until you "field" a car of your own.  Stop with the
M/C pwr and shocks until you actually compete with that thing on the track
sir. -Yet to occur, per all your peers.  How many of the  F5 dissenters have
a current SCCA licencse?
If Q leaves it's huge!  Art races right? ART therefore gets a Major opinion.
You're developing for Q?   Have a BA & P.E. to go with that F5 National 
Racing license?-Didn't think so. Both would be a good idea before you voice
an opinion to be taken seriously.
Yes I know both you & Novak offer to design probono for others, but I don't
think Hanley, Q and others would be any more interested than Panoz would be
in Chevy designing LMP suspensions for them. Nothing's for free. And I bet
they would get exactly what they paid for.
How 'bout we limit opinions to those who actually race cars somewhere other
than on the bench.
And wasn't Jay leaving to design DSR-See SR board on EZboards...He only was
waiting to sell his last two F5s..........
Just a thought from someone who sunk 25k over the past 18 months into racing
F5s. --And who considers it money well spent.
Put your money and car on the track and others will take your seriously.
Come race with us!!!!
Steven Dodd
Texas



Chris Wrote

But...if nothing is done with this class Q won't have to participate, there
won't be a class.  As far as rising costs are concerned, have you looked at
the sticker on a F500 lately?  It's a couple bucks more than it was 10 years
ago, and at $20k, it's still nothing to sneeze at, and there's no
drysump!!!!
   As far as Q's R&D money for the motorcycle engine development, your
looking at it, I'm doing it for him, and will happy to share whatever info I
can with him....
   I'm sorry and I'll say it till I'm blue in the face, there's no reason
why a car with 600cc "STOCK" motorcycle engine would be any more expensive
if not much cheaper to operate than a single source 2 cylinder 2 stroke.
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