--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > This process began over a year ago when you and Rory began to > speak of > > your experiences using terms such as enlightenment, Brahman, > Brahman > > Consciousness, etc. Maybe not all such terms were used by you -- I > > would have to check the archives. The point is that was my > impression > > and interpreation of what the two of you were saying. And I may > have > > been incorrrect. > > <snip> > > Hey Akasha, good to see you!
Hi Rory. Nice to see you back on the list. > I don't recall everything Tom and I said, but in general, Brahman > still appears to be the right "niche" (what a paradox THAT is! *lol*) > for those experiences -- the realization that all the desired states > of consciousness -- C.C., G.C. and U.C. -- were available at will, > as a matter of attention, and that *none* of them was the deepest > Truth But if cc is a state clouded by several sets of remaining, unpurified koshas, and GC the same, just less koshas, why would it be advantagous to "regress" back to them at times? While there maybe be further refinement and purification of "filters" in UC, thus it is not the ultimate truth (a nebulous concept itself), but again, whay does going back to more clouded states "help" bring greater clarity? > -- that what was ardently desired was only Perfection, NOW -- > and that accepting and surrendering into that resulted in the > immediate death of my Soul, the old witnessing "I AM", And how would you define soul at that point? As one of the koshaa? as Mahat? as Solar Angel? - See adjacent post on Koshas and Experiencers. > as "I" was > ripped open into realization of THAT which had been there all along, And what was the "I" at this point? Avyakta? > ignored in my unconscious search for something other than what IS. because koshas were veiling it? >I cannot really speak for anyone's state of consciousness other than > my own and how others look inside my field, and really everyone > looks pretty darn good, You used to say, along with others, that enlightened ones would "tickle" you in a certain way or resonate. Is this looking inside your field the same thing, or a different process? fully enlightened in fact, even those doing > a great job of pretending they are in ignorance for the time being. One can pretend an impurified kosha is not there, but if it is, it is. Purusha is still Purusha, but the reflection of its knowing Itself is not/less felt due to the koshas. Pretending this way or that way doesnt apear to affect that. > That said, I do notice when someone is resisting the "me" in them, Yes, letting totaly go seems to be a wise practice. > and Tom is one of the few I have seen who presents no resistance > whatsover, ever. He is also the first to understand me on FFL when I > was saying that Brahman is not an experience, it is an > Understanding, actually the radical Understanding. This is something > that people experiencing C.C. and G.C. and even Unity do not, in my > opinion, generally actually get. That subtle ego or causal body > seems to get in the way, still claiming the "experience" for its > own. :-) > (To attempt some of Vaj's questions from this perspective, the loss > of the Causal body was a huge shock that took some time to get used > to -- the "fishbowl" quality of I/THAT/Everything presented nothing > to hold on to, anywhere. Was this the bliss body? The transcendental body? Were losing each a separate experience? In Turiya, a comon experience is "nothing to hang onto" . Yet there are still Mahat and Avyakta to hang onto -- if this upanishadic model is correct. Are you referring to the loss of Mahat and Avyakta as Experiencers, leaving only Pure Purusha as Experiencer? If so how did loss of Mahat and Avyakta as Experiencers compare to loss of Mahat (or solar angel) as Experiencer? Questions on the rest later. Thanks for any insights you may provide. > Being taught "by" what I assume was Vaj's > Hiranyagarbha -- which I know is supposed to be the golden egg, but > to me appeared red on one end, blue on the other, and gold only > around the middle -- only really came to awareness a few years after > that "Brahman-Crucifixion;" a number of other unfoldments took > place in between. Not having a body of my own necessitated > constructing another body, an immortal "body of knowledge," which I > have been tinkering with and refining pretty much ever since. I > guess Purusha is as good a name as any. I am still not "done," by > the way. A lot of stuff associated with becoming the physical > incarnation of Karttikeya, about four years after "Brahman," was so > intense that I am still processing it, 19 years later.) > > Yours, > > R. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
