Don't start the celebrations too early. The point
still holds: if you talk about something with no
experiential context, the conversation is meaningless
beyond entertainment.
-Peter

--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Great. Glad  to hear it. And now the world won't be
> burdened anymore
> with nonesense admonitions about dharmas when there
> are references to
> similtaneous multiple levels of understnding about
> soemthing. Its a
> great day of celebration.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:.  
> > Thank you for setting me straight. I feel much
> better.
> > -Peter
> 
> > 
> > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > To be a bit more specific Peter, your dharma cop
> > > role assumes most
> > > people are fools. It assumes all people are like
> > > woody allen's satire
> > > / characture of himself as a kid in Annie Hall.
> As
> > > you remember, the
> > > young 10 year old is brought to the psychiatrist
> by
> > > his mother because
> > > Alvie won't do anything other than stare at
> walls.
> > > Alvie explains his
> > > version of existential angst to the shrink, "the
> > > universe is
> > > expannding, which means one day it will explode
> and
> > > that 
> > > will be the end of everything." 
> > > 
> > > Some funny responses: His mother yells, "What
> > > business is it of yours
> > > what the Universe is doing??!!" And the shrink
> > > explains in
> > > condescending tones, "Don't worry Alvie,
> Brooklyn is
> > > not expanding." 
> > > 
> > > Your fear appears to be that everyone is an
> Alvie,
> > > that they will be
> > > paralyzed into inaction if they dare recognize a
> > > reality that is only
> > > partially, though perhaps not yet eternally
> > > recognized. People, their
> > > associated reactive minds, intellects and
> bodies,
> > > are usually not that
> > > dull as to sink into paralysis when realizing
> > > conceptually, based on
> > > experience -- even if it is not eternal
> experience,
> > > that there is no
> > > doer. Or at a deeper level, there is no action. 
> > > 
> > > One can learn of how food is assimilated at
> > > chemical, quantum
> > > mechanical or even cosmological levels ("it
> doesn't
> > > amout to a hill of
> > > beans" to quote another film) and yet still the
> body
> > > contines to eat
> > > on the surface level. It is not shocked into
> > > paralysis knowing its
> > > just quantum soup drinking quantum soup.
> > > 
> > > So your role playing dharmic high priest,
> telling
> > > people from what and
> > > how they should interpret the world, is ITMBO
> (in
> > > this mind/body's
> > > opinion) more something you are working out
> > > internally, and does not
> > > provide much useful real world guidance for
> others. 
> > > 
> > > But everyone can and will decide on their own.
> > > Besides, this is just
> > > all quantum soup made from an insignificant hill
> of
> > > beans. 
> > > 
> > > --- your pal alvie (still crazy, but not
> paralyzed,
> > > after all these
> > > years).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > >  
> > > > Yes, I understand Peter. 
> > > > 
> > > > As long as you continue to comparmentalize
> > > wholeness into little
> > > > domains, and feel the need to keep tracking
> our
> > > different 
> > > > dharmas blazing in your mind, you will
> continue to
> > > feel the need to
> > > > play dharma cop -- and to continue to cite
> people
> > > for your own
> > > > internal vision of dharmic conflicts of the
> One
> > > Eternal Dharma. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cite away. 
> > > > 
> > > > As GH said: Beware of darkness. All things
> must
> > > pass.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > > Sutphen
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Watch out Akasha, you're going to get a
> dharma
> > > fine!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected],
> Peter
> > > Sutphen 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973,
> National
> > > > > > always
> > > > > > > sent the correct percentage back and the
> > > correct
> > > > > > > percentage into my ATR account. That
> lasted
> > > for a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > > years until someone sucked the ATR
> credit
> > > account
> > > > > > dry.
> > > > > > > -Peter
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter,  there
> was
> > > no
> > > > > > doer of the
> > > > > > initiations, and thus no thief claiming
> > > ownership of
> > > > > > the action, and
> > > > > > thus no thief claiming ownership of the
> ATR
> > > credit. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY,
> was
> > > not a
> > > > > > thief of the action
> > > > > > of canceling all ATR credits. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thus it appears nature was working on
> nature,
> > > > > > adjusting karmic account
> > > > > > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief,
> no
> > > victim,
> > > > > > no foul.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Or go to: 
> 
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