--- In [email protected], "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 
> Those claiming to be awake are suspect.
> What great exponent of knowledge has ever made this claim?

Those claiming to be asleep are even more suspect, for they are 
denying the self-evident Truth -- a patent absurdity! Have you ever 
asked if someone was awake, and believed them when they replied, "No, 
I am asleep"?

<snip>

> How is Liberation to be gained if one doesn't give up all 
attachments?

I don't know; how?





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