---Right on!...and "a foolish fish never takes the same bait twice". and "you can't fool all of the fools all of the time....but ...." ...hyperbolic geometry.
"Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me it's more like: > > I see with my own eyes that dad cannot swim, even though > I believed he could when we were on the beach and as > we started into the water. If he is swallowing water and > looking like he's in big trouble, dad can no longer help me > swim, or at least cannot help me any longer. I would be > foolish to take any more of dad's advice since my direct > experience tells me he looks like he's going down. > > So I need to take responsibility for my own swimming and > make sure I don't do something terminally stupid. I know > I can't help dad because he's never been willing to listen to > anyone but himself. He used to like it when I stood up > for my own opinions, but got pretty pissed off when I > first starting noticing his actions and his words were often > contradictory. > > --- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've got a serious question for everybody and no > > > implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if > > > there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone > > > can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we > > > need any story whatsoever regarding MMY? We can > > > neither confirm nor disconfirm any story. The > > > arguments go on and on. Most of our stories whether in > > > the pro or con camp are simply narratives of what we > > > already believe. All we have is our own experiences > > > regarding MMY. The stories can never, ever resolve; > > > they never "make sense" unless you deny huge chunks of > > > contradictory material. So, why and what is this need > > > that some, all, a few, including moi, struggle with? > > > -Peter > > > > > > > It's like a little kid being taught to swim in the ocean by his dad. > > You have always been afraid of the ocean but your dad has talked > > about how there is nothing to be afraid of, here's how to do the dog > > paddle, just paddle out and float, don't worry, if anything happens > > I'll save you. > > > > You're still not totally comfortable with being out in the water but > > hey your dad taught you a special way to swim and after all he's > > been swimming all over the ocean, and it's worked for him...right? > > > > So now everyone is out over their head and your dad looks like maybe > > he's having kind of a hard time keeping his head above water, or is > > he? It's hard to tell, is he struggling or not, was he lying about > > knowing how to swim or knowing about how to teach someone else to > > swim? Hey listen, I don't know if I can do this by myself, if he > > goes down I'm in big trouble, hey dad...dad! tell me how you know > > how to swim again okay...I'm scared. > > > > > > Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
