--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 2005, at 11:24 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > Of course, if a guru (which MMY isn't in the > > traditional sense, BTW) > > > > really DOES have the "bestest" technique or > > whatever, then it would > > > > be silly not to claim it. > > > > > > If there was such a thing. Not everyone believes > > what they are told. > > > Given that many trads. have a proven track record > > of enlightenment, > > > I'm sure many could claim they are the best. Many > > of those that do > > have > > > such a record, don't make such claims. > > > > > > A big emphasis of Bob's was watch out if they well > > you you should see > > > no other teachers....in this case very apropos re: > > TMO. > > > > Quite a few studies have come out in the past few > > years about > > enlightened individuals. The DSM has changed its > > evaluation of > > derealization from meditation/spiritual techniques > > based on interviews > > with enlightened TMers. > > What!!!!! "The DSM [Diagnostic and Statistical Manual > of Mental Disorders] has changed its evaluation of > derealization [disorder] based on interviews with > enlightened TMers" What is your source for this rather > dubious statement. > -Peter > >
The DSM. REad the section about derealization disorders. "Voluntarily induced experiences of depersonalization or derealization form part of meditative and trance practices that are prevalent in many religions and cultures and should not be confused with Depersonalization Disorder." (p. 488) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
