--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, goodie. :-) > > It's not every morning that I get a chance to > start my day off with a good rant, but here I > have two idiots offering me an opportunity to > do so, on a silver platter. > > I simply cannot resist. > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "mainstream20016" > > > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > You have NOTHING to say about it. > > > > > > > > > > It's not your body. > > > > > > > > > > It's not your decision. > > > > > > > > You pose your declaration as though I were blocking the > > > > entrance to an abortiion clinic in protest. How dare you > > > > suggest I refrain from expressing my thinking that abortion > > > > is cruel! > > <snip> > > [ the rest of mainstream's post, so carefully > snipped by Judy, hereby reinserted ]
Snipped because I *agree* with Barry's take on the part I didn't quote, so carefully unacknowledged by Barry. Reinserted by him to obscure this point and make readers think that somehow I was excusing mainstream's accusation about Barry's complicity. > > > > Regarding your compassionate support to so many women > > > > tormented by their decision to abort - I think you > > > > had alot more involvement in their basic predicament, > > > > and that you lobbied for the eventual decision that > > > > caused them so much pain. > > [ my response to mainstream ] > > > > Wow. > > > > > > This is so insane that I'm a little afraid. > > > > > > Now you know why I don't discuss abortion; > > > it brings out the inner fanatic in people. > > [ Judy, being...uh...herself ] > > > Actually, he's right on target in the part I quoted. > > > > Whether what men have to say, pro or con, about > > abortion *counts* is one thing; it's quite another > > to tell them they have no right to express an > > opinion. > > > > Just imagine the fireworks if someone told Barry > > he had "nothing to say" about something upon > > which he'd made one of his pronouncements! > > Ok, you guys started this. Now sit back and > take what's comin' to ya. In other words, zero, in my case. > There is NOT ONE WORD in my original post in > which I suggested that mainstream should not > express his opinion on this subject. I did NOT > tell him that he had "nothing to say" ON THE > SUBJECT. I told him he had nothing to say about > the *decision* any woman makes on this subject. LOL!! What an astonishing bit of sophistry, as if there was any distinction, as if it would make any difference what a woman "decided" if mainstream's view ON THE SUBJECT carried any weight. Just imagine the fireworks if someone else had attempted to wiggle out of having told Barry he had "nothing to say" about something using this tortured excuse. And this after he's already handed the antichoice side a huge win by *accepting* the role that the guilt imposed by the antichoice folks plays for many women in making the decision to abort so difficult, as I pointed out in another post that Barry conveniently ignored. With friends like Barry, women don't need any enemies. Barry can take his vaunted "compassion" and shove it up his nose. As Florynce Kennedy said so memorably, "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." As I said, whether what men have to say, pro or con, concerning abortion *counts* is another issue. Using Barry's very own formulation, in my opinion they have NOTHING TO SAY whatsoever. <rest of Barry's idiotic rant snipped>
