--- In [email protected], "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I just read your words, and 
> > you're like, c'mon guys! its taken 30 whole years to transform 
every 
> > element of the world, and I don't see any clear evidence yet!!! 
I 
> > don't see it-- what's taking so damned long?...
> > 
> > Pretty funny actually, when you consider that even global 
warming 
> > for goodness sake took almost two hundred years to begin 
> > manifesting, and here we are 30 short years into a far more 
profound 
> > transformation, and you're already yelping, "where's the 
beef!?". 
> > Relax...:-)
> 
> The beef is that MMY himself has repeatedly since 1974 declared 
that a
> brief phase transition of a few months was necessary for the "full
> sunshine...", "sat yuga .." "golden age" to emerge, that this 
message
> is repeatedly used to promote fund raising for specific projects, 
and
> that people like yourself keep falling for it for 33 yrs.  

So that would mean that I send money, or go on courses? I don't do 
either. My donations for the last decade totalled $50 for the 
pundits in Fairfield project. Last course was in 1993, and I left 
early.:-)
> 
> So you're saying that this time he actually means only a few more
> months ... and that 10 years from now you won't still be making
> excuses about how these things take time??
>
I didn't say that at all. I've said before that the global 
indicators of the ME are elusive, and that they don't necessarily 
conform to the indices that the TMO has developed. The first step of 
an a of e according to all of the yogis I've heard is that more and 
more individuals will begin experiencing enlightenment on a 
permanent basis. And if you read the last missive from the TMO, MMY 
is saying keep the attention where it needs to be, on the Self.

Looking at Maharishi's treatment of a coming Sat Yuga, he clearly 
will do whatever it takes to continue to infuse earth consciousness 
with TM and TMSP energy, even if that means stringing along us 
meditators for 30+ years. If he hadn't, you'd probably be 
complaining that he isn't doing enough to generate momentum for his 
vision. So either way he loses. Or either way he wins. Just comes 
down to what you think of his programs and how they are working for 
you. I personally am enjoying spectacular success with what I 
continue to learn and practice, so I am quietly supportive of 
Maharishi's vision. He has given me the tools that I need to have 
gained my eternal freedom, and that far surpasses all of my 
expectations for this lifetime. Doesn't mean there aren't still more 
pencils to sell, though, one at a time.:-)

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