--I believe that MMY did an excellent job trying to explain enlightenment and how it developed to westerners who for the most part had no idea what enlightenment was.However,in doing this he used modern terms eg stress in ways which do not exactly conform to what they actually mean.I think that meditation(not just TM)does produce changes in the body/central nervous system(CNS).These changes can become permanent and undoubtedly are related to changes in the expereince of conciousness eg witnessing.As far what can be expereinced in meditation being purely the result of "unstressing" I think that is highly debatable.With respect to my expereince of of shakti/kundalini during my initiation I would charaterize that as an awakening of a force that had been latent in my body.This force is very much active all the time in my body now.I would agree that SOME of the effects that this force causes could be described using the term "unstressing".Kevin
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Comment below > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > "Beautiful unstressing." > > > > > > > > > What does that mean? > > > > > > Any thoughts, feelings, images, etc., during TM are *ALWAYS* > > > unstressing. If you were stress free, you'd be enlightened, and > have > > > no-thought, no-mantra for the entire meditation period. > > > > > > "Beautiful unstressing" just means that the thoughts, feelings, > etc., > > > are pleasant, rather than unpleasant. > > > > The above is TM-speak and should not in any way be mistaken as a > > rational definition for the term"unstressing".When you have a > thought > > and/or feeling that basis for these expereinces is > > multifactored(whether you are meditating or not).So how about trying > > to give a neurophysiological and/or neuropsychological definition > for > > the term "unstressing"assuming of course one is even possible. > > Kevin > > > The definitions of TM, valid or not, was what I was going by: > > By MMY's theory of how TM and enlightenment work, during TM practice, > any and all thoughts/feelings/etc (including the mantra after the > first introduction, I suspect) are due to stress (samskara?) in the > nervous system. If your nervous system was sufficiently stress free, > you would be transcending for the entire meditation period,at least > after the introduction of the mantra. > > Some thoughts/feelings/etc are pleasant, while others aren't. The > most pleasant ones would fall under the title "beautiful unstressing." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
