"but if he said it to me in church while looking > at a choirgirl, my anger would be instantly full blown."
I think the addiction here is to imagining things to get angry about. Hypothetically stimulating your righteous anger gland alone in your room. What does this remind me of... --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy, > > You say Barry's a liar of significant degree. You're accusing him of > mindfully trying to besmirch you, and that this agenda of his is > undeserved by you. > > Even though this "personality has waged a ten year 'war'" on you, you > choose to support and defend and assume that his other intents in > life are not equally tainted by this dynamic. I think the concept of > infinite self-reference applies here. Barry can't be so cruel towards > you without it leaking out into his other actions. > > If he can so "coldly stalk" you hoping for the least chink to slam a > wedge into, why can't he stalk a girl in a bar with an equally > offensive intent? > > After he utters "hit that," you do not think that it is logical to > call for a concern that he'll pursue a manipulative intent in a bar > while talking to a 25 year old. > > Why? > > He's burned you not once, but hundreds of times, yet you'd trust his > words here to be a correct description of his modus operandi in bars? > "Hit that" tells any man in the real world that the speaker is out for > objectified sex, yet you say Barry's not revealed any predatory intent > and is, well, I guess, "trustable," and that we should take him at his > word about his true motivations? > > You've taken the stance that girls of the world are too savvy to be > tricked by him, and that I am off base thinking women are so easily > targeted, and that I am being offensive to women to assert that they > are at any risk. I do think women are as easily manipulated by > "loving gestures," as men are by tits and ass. A balanced equation if > you ask me, and I'm not so much saying women are weak as I am saying > that all folks are weak in some way and that predators know how to > exploit these things. > > If anything, I think women are vastly superior to men in ways that I > really envy. OTOH, men have their niche advantages. Men and women, > thus, go together like peanuts and chocolate. > > And I reserve the right to be as wildly corrosive in my descriptions > of anyone here as I want to be -- call them projection if you like, > but I'm trying to encapsulate emotions, and the emotions just need big > words and phrases. > > Miss not my point, I am disgusted with Barry's glib disregard for > society when he of all people here has had the life experiences to > know the value of core morals. To express this, I've reached into my > magic word basket and pulled out phrases that are as offensive as his > "hit that" are to me. > > If he were in a bar next to me and said "hit that," I'm a man, and in > a man's world, men get to say that to each other, so I wouldn't start > a fist fight about it, but if he said it to me in church while looking > at a choirgirl, my anger would be instantly full blown. > > That's my sexist double standard, and I'm trying to fix that by > calling Barry -- AND ALL MEN -- to task about their marauding, > outlander, manipulative, conniving and denying ways. > > Edg > PS -- The "Judy boy toy" thing was due to your words that suggested > that you would take a lover 20 years your junior. I don't see you as > a predator on a regular basis though -- just willing to be one if you > "got lucky." Barry seems to work the crowd regularly. > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > Some here have expressed skepticism when I have > > said that Barry is dishonest. > > > > Following is a clear-cut, utterly unambiguous > > example (from #151367): > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Thirteen years ago, on another forum, someone > > > else developed the same kind of twisted fixation > > > on me, confusing me with all the things she hates > > > in herself but cannot accept or recognize in > > > herself. > > > > > > She has stalked me from forum to forum ever since > > > > Barry is, of course, referring to me. > > > > The first paragraph is Barry's *opinion*, even > > though he states it as if it were established > > fact. He's totally wrong, but he's entitled to > > hold wrong opinions. > > > > The dishonesty is in the next line: > > > > > She has stalked me from forum to forum ever since > > > > This is a lie in the narrowest sense of the > > term, in that Barry knows it isn't true. He > > has repeated it many times here and elsewhere. > > > > Here are the facts, of which Barry is very > > well aware: > > > > Barry and I have been on exactly three of the > > same groups: alt.meditation.transcendental, > > FairfieldLife, and Knapp's blog, TMFree. > > > > I encountered Barry for the first time on > > alt.m.t, so obviously I couldn't have "stalked" > > him there. > > > > I was a member of FairfieldLife before Barry > > ever joined it. I didn't read it regularly > > or post to it, however, until after Barry had > > joined and *invited* everyone on alt.m.t to > > participate in the discussions on FFL. > > > > "Stalking" can mean several different things. > > One thing it does *not* mean is responding to > > an invitation by the purported stalkee. > > > > And I was posting comments on TMFree shortly > > after it went live, *well before* Barry had > > posted anything there himself. If anything, > > he stalked *me* there. > > > > Again, Barry is very well aware of all these > > facts. His claim that I have been "stalking > > him from forum to forum" is a deliberate lie. > > > > This is not an isolated example; it's not some > > kind of aberration. It's very far from the only > > lie he's told, here and on alt.m.t and TMFree > > (and goodness knows where else that I'm not > > aware of), about me, and about others. But as I > > say, it's an unambiguous example, and it's > > something anyone can verify for themselves. > > > > Finally, just as a bonus, note the phrasing > > "ever since," following Barry's claim about > > what had happened 13 years ago. In fact, for > > 11 of those years, until 2005 when I started > > posting to FFL, alt.m.t was the *only* forum > > Barry and I were on together. > > > > "Ever since" is therefore deliberately > > deceptive, making it sound as though the > > purported "stalking" has been going on for > > 13 years. It's a lie on top of a lie. > > >
