Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India

[Llundrub]

And the specific meaning of Mahalakshmi is? And the specific meaning of Mahakali is?  Shrim, Shirim, shiring, etc... Krim, kirim, kiring, etc... get it?    Where is the meaning? One can't even figure out the meaning of a person's face, let alone a cosmic deity.  To think there's a meaning to ones spouse is to lose the reality beyond purpose and forget life itself.   How is there a meaning to one that one can't even touch, see, or hear?  Where is the meaning surface or otherwise?    Where's the meanning of 2 plus 2 for that matter? So many sounds and even concepts have no meaning when taken out of context.  Bob, Jim, Jack, Jill, Bill, Sam, these are all meaningless.    What is the difference? The difference is the Sanskrit base of the mantras which makes them bija based.   They aren't bijas exactly because they have more than one syllable. But they are ipso facto taken from the Sri Vidya 16 syllable mantra. Any dope should find it obvious given Guru Dev's affiliation with Sri Vidya.   Then a bit of pulsatory syllabic addition to make them more brainwave entraining and voila....TM     ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India -If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that one is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting caught on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper levels of consciousness. More important than any specific meaning, is the ability to transcend using the sound, the vibration, of the mantra. The whole misunderstanding of meditation, I believe, is the notion, of getting caught up on meaning, rather than transcending all meaning and establishing consciousness, in that field which is transcendental to all meaning... -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heh. So, common sense tells me esoteric Hindu/Vedic details? > > MMY doesn't teach meaningful mantras, by his own explanation of how TM > works. > > > > =====What does Mahalakshmi mean exactly? What does Mahakali mean exactly?  These devas exist in the energetic realm that is outside of our exact space/time frame. Therefore meditation on them is outside of conventional meaning. Without losing nothing of the meaning of "meaningless sounds" the mantras can still have deep meanings. Just like the word, MAH, is meaningless and has vague notions to most but specific notions to those who use the word Mah for their mother. These mantras are especially meaningless to Westerners but not so to those in India. "Meaningless sounds" is merely a rhetorical device... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.