This is just silly, Shemp, typical of you. I 
hold no brief for Billy Graham. I was simply
correcting your erroneous notion that he's a
nutjob fundamentalist (just as I corrected
your equally erroneous notion that Obama is
a fundamentalist).

Your research skills leave a great deal to
be desired.

Nothing you've posted in response contradicts 
anything I wrote. Perhaps (as is so often the 
case), you didn't actually *read* what I wrote.

You might try doing that before you comment
further.


--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > 
> > > Even Hillary!  Gosh, don't forget the high-five that Bill and 
> Hill 
> > > gave each other as they sat on Billy Graham's stage a few years 
> > > back when he suggested that Bill become a preacher and Hillary 
> > > become president.  You don't get an endorsement like that 
without 
> > > being a full-blooded "Jesus is the Way" nutjob Christian 
> > > fundamentalist.
> > 
> > Well, yes, you can. Neither Bill nor Hillary is
> > a fundamentalist, let alone a nutjob one.
> > 
> > Graham himself isn't a nutjob fundamentalist and
> > has been the target of criticism for his tolerance
> > of other religions and unwillingness to hew to
> > fundamentalist dogma. He's been an adviser to many
> > presidents, including Nixon (whom he also endorsed
> > politically).
> >
> 
> 
> Oh, yes, Judy, Billy Graham was VERY tolerant of other religions.  
> Indeed, the tolerant Most Reverand Mr. Graham just loved the Jews, 
> for example:
> 
> "The National Archives made public thousands of tape recordings of 
> conversations of the late President Richard Nixon, who was 
notorious 
> for his slurs against Jews. On some of these tapes, were exchanges 
> between him and the famed evangelist, Rev. Billy Graham. 
> 
> "In 1972, Graham agreed with Nixon that our nation's problems lie 
> with the satanic Jews. Both accused Jews of dominating the media, 
one 
> of the oldest anti-Jewish canards. Graham went on to blame Jews for 
> putting out pornographic stuff. He told Nixon that the Jewish 
> stranglehold has to be broken or the country will go down the 
drain. 
> He admitted to Nixon that Jews do not really know his true feelings 
> about them." (from http://www.beth-elsa.org/be_s0419a.htm )
> 
> 
> As for his wonderful tolerance for Blacks and civil rights, here's 
> what Billy Graham said about Martin Luther King:
> 
> " 'I am convinced that some Negroes are going too far and too 
fast.' 
> With King in jail he preached civic rectitude. 'I do believe we 
have 
> the responsibility to obey the law. No matter what the law may be --
 
> it may be an unjust law -- I believe we have the responsibility to 
> obey it.' In response to King's 'I have a dream' speech, Graham 
> critiqued it with, 'Only when Christ comes again will the little 
> white children of Alabama walk hand in hand with little black 
> children.'
> 
> "After King's death he put King down with: 'Yes, he had his 
> demonstrations in the streets, while I had mine in lawful religious 
> services in stadiums.' " (from http://tinyurl.com/ypebsk )
> 
> Thank you, Judy, for your endorsement of Billy Graham's "tolerance" 
> and your insistance that he is not a fundamentalist nutjob.
> 
> It's Saturday morning, Judy.  Will you be doing your usual Garage 
> Sale shopping whereby you go looking to expand your collection of 
> black-faced lawn ornaments?
>


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