--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > Nothing you've posted in response contradicts > > > anything I wrote. Perhaps (as is so often the > > > case), you didn't actually *read* what I wrote. > > > > > > You might try doing that before you comment > > > further. > > > > Oh, of COURSE you didn't try to defend Billy Graham > > No, I didn't. I hold no brief for Billy Graham. > The best I can say about him is that he isn't > quite as bad as a lot of other evangelist types. > > I was simply correcting your erroneous notion > that he's a nutjob fundamentalist (just as I > corrected your equally erroneous notion that > Obama is a fundamentalist). > > and of COURSE you > > didn't try to foist upon us the notion that he is tolerant, Judy. > > No, I didn't, you're absolutely right. I said Graham > "has been the target of criticism for his tolerance > of other religions and unwillingness to hew to > fundamentalist dogma." > > > Why, anyone can simply scroll down right now and read what you > > wrote about Reverend Graham and conclude that. > > And if they do, they'll see that I said Graham > "has been the target of criticism for his tolerance > of other religions and unwillingness to hew to > fundamentalist dogma." > > Nutjob fundamentalists think he's too tolerant > of other religions. Nutjob fundamentalists think > he doesn't adhere closely enough to > fundamentalist dogma. > > Sorry to burst your bubble with facts. > > And your rant about his racism is a complete non > sequitur. I wonder why, when I pointed out that > fundamentalist nutjobs have criticized him for > his *religious* tolerance, you interpreted that as > an expression of *my* opinion about his *racial* > tolerance (about which I had said NOTHING). > > I mean, Shemp, that makes no sense at all. When > you're caught in an error, you appear to lose > all capacity for rational thought. >
Keep digging, Judy, keep digging. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Hillary! Gosh, don't forget the high-five that Bill > and > > > > Hill > > > > > > gave each other as they sat on Billy Graham's stage a few > > years > > > > > > back when he suggested that Bill become a preacher and > > Hillary > > > > > > become president. You don't get an endorsement like that > > > without > > > > > > being a full-blooded "Jesus is the Way" nutjob Christian > > > > > > fundamentalist. > > > > > > > > > > Well, yes, you can. Neither Bill nor Hillary is > > > > > a fundamentalist, let alone a nutjob one. > > > > > > > > > > Graham himself isn't a nutjob fundamentalist and > > > > > has been the target of criticism for his tolerance > > > > > of other religions and unwillingness to hew to > > > > > fundamentalist dogma. He's been an adviser to many > > > > > presidents, including Nixon (whom he also endorsed > > > > > politically). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, yes, Judy, Billy Graham was VERY tolerant of other > > religions. > > > > Indeed, the tolerant Most Reverand Mr. Graham just loved the > > Jews, > > > > for example: > > > > > > > > "The National Archives made public thousands of tape recordings > > of > > > > conversations of the late President Richard Nixon, who was > > > notorious > > > > for his slurs against Jews. On some of these tapes, were > > exchanges > > > > between him and the famed evangelist, Rev. Billy Graham. > > > > > > > > "In 1972, Graham agreed with Nixon that our nation's problems > lie > > > > with the satanic Jews. Both accused Jews of dominating the > media, > > > one > > > > of the oldest anti-Jewish canards. Graham went on to blame Jews > > for > > > > putting out pornographic stuff. He told Nixon that the Jewish > > > > stranglehold has to be broken or the country will go down the > > > drain. > > > > He admitted to Nixon that Jews do not really know his true > > feelings > > > > about them." (from http://www.beth-elsa.org/be_s0419a.htm ) > > > > > > > > > > > > As for his wonderful tolerance for Blacks and civil rights, > > here's > > > > what Billy Graham said about Martin Luther King: > > > > > > > > " 'I am convinced that some Negroes are going too far and too > > > fast.' > > > > With King in jail he preached civic rectitude. 'I do believe we > > > have > > > > the responsibility to obey the law. No matter what the law may > > be -- > > > > > > > it may be an unjust law -- I believe we have the responsibility > > to > > > > obey it.' In response to King's 'I have a dream' speech, Graham > > > > critiqued it with, 'Only when Christ comes again will the > little > > > > white children of Alabama walk hand in hand with little black > > > > children.' > > > > > > > > "After King's death he put King down with: 'Yes, he had his > > > > demonstrations in the streets, while I had mine in lawful > > religious > > > > services in stadiums.' " (from http://tinyurl.com/ypebsk ) > > > > > > > > Thank you, Judy, for your endorsement of Billy > > Graham's "tolerance" > > > > and your insistance that he is not a fundamentalist nutjob. > > > > > > > > It's Saturday morning, Judy. Will you be doing your usual > Garage > > > > Sale shopping whereby you go looking to expand your collection > of > > > > black-faced lawn ornaments? >
