--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "guybanner2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Peter, > > If I were a smug eletist, etc. as some imply on this forum, > > I would write under my real name. I simply gave an example > > of my experience with MMY transforming my physiology into > > celibacy to illustrate that if he can do this for me, how > > could he not be celibate himself. > > I wouldn't assume that just because MMY can instill a particular > value or woowoo experience in you that he would hold himself to that > same value or cultivate that same experience. Chela-boinking gurus > who preach celibacy are all too common a phenomenon.
Bingo! Also, there is an assumption some people (mainly Westerners) make that I personally feel is not warranted. Namely that because some people can do non-everyday things and perform the occasional siddhi that they're enlightened. Apples and oranges, in my book. Siddhis are just a skill; I don't see them as having a one-to-one relationship with any state of consciousness but the one required to perform the siddhi. Being able to levitate (true, hanging-in-mid-air leviation for some time) or go invisible or whatever says nothing about the person's enlightenment, merely that they have mastered that particular siddhi. Just my opinion, on the basis of having seen a great number of siddhis performed. > > But, people have taken this out of context and some how > > think I am puffing about myself. > > I didn't see you as puffing yourself up. The stuff about being "on Maharishi's staff" was pretty clear puffing-up. :-) > I saw you as glorifying the > dogmas of corporeal asceticism as if they represent the higest state > of spirituality. Bingo. My chosen path is cool and highly evolved; yours sucks. > Denial/denigration of humanness is a huge trigger > for me because I spent decades beating myself up with such value > systems. I don't have a problem with folks who are naturally drawn > to celibacy, but I really bristle at teachings that hold celibacy > as some sort of highest spiritual value that people *should* > strive for. I don't believe celibacy is good or appropriate for > those who are not drawn to it, and it's certainly not a > prerequisite for awakening. Bingo again. You're on a roll today, Alex. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
