other gods before me in the torah, bible and other religious admonitions has a meaning you miss, and every religion and group including most tmers miss it also, and in turn have slaughtered millions and feel justified about it. it means that god is transcendent first and immanent second. if you worship an immanent or personal form before or without first contacting the transcendent then you leave out the main power source. then god is a shell, the structure that conducts energy without the infinite energy source without its battery then plunk, god is as good as dead to you. tm is not the only technique to arrive at the transcendent, it is just the easiest because in its practice it has all the elements and dynamics of god realization or communication with total natural law without individual or group ego interpretations. it is direct sequential dynamics of the nervous system functioning in tune with natural laws that create the experience of god. people in the movement and religions mistake the cart for the horse. you put the cart in front of the horse and you destroy the practicality of the vehicle. tmers think that the program is god when it is the vehicle to god which must some day be abandoned when you arrive in heaven if you are to enjoy the alabaster pillars and gold rivers firsthand. you have destroyed the vehicle of tm for yourself in favor of your old comfortable cart. sure you can find an old nearly dead horse to push it around for you, but what a wast when a stallion is waiting in the stables to whisk you up the mountain to shangrilla, or zion as you may prefer.
an enlightened person has no qualms in telling lies to people who have not developed the capacity to discern truth. fact is they understand truth much less than the lies. every religious doctrine as well as any system of knowledge, being subject to individual skew, is a form of lie until you have the nervous system to see it for what it is, fake. the whole material universe is a wonderful fake for a play of the being called god who, since there is no possible loss, convinces itself that is is real for a good old fashioned drama to watch. by the way that being has always been, will always be, you..... --- In [email protected], boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Started TM in 1976 (gads, was it that long ago?). Eventually made my > way to Siddhis. In another post I will talk about the good > experiences I had with TM/Siddhis. I was not a teacher but was > married to a Governor who was also my initiator. > > When I started TM those years ago I was not overly concerned about > the religious implications of TM and this accurately reflected my own > disinterest in my own religion. That was to change as I got older > and raised a family. For years I just accepted the standard party > line as told by MMY which was that TM and all of its branches > was "Vedic" and not Hindu and that it was cosmically clean and of no > concern to any other religious group. In time I came to question > just what this here Vedic really meant. As well in time I came to > read more about the Mantras and in what context that came from. > > Years later I took a more in-depth interest in my own religion and > began to reflect much closer on what Vedic meant. After a while I > realized that it was just a pale ruse to call TM stuff "Vedic" when > in fact it was just dressed up Hindu practices, familiar to all > Hindu's around the world. In coming to know my own religion better I > chanced upon a sentence in the Torah which just sealed the whole > affair for me. > > I quote: "the name of other gods ye do not mention; > it is not heard on thy mouth..." Source: Exodus 23:13. I have read > various commentaries about what this means. While the OT is open to > interpretation I think that the words can be taken here at face > value. Since these Children of Israel were spiritually open vessels > and sensitive to all kinds of influences, the wording is not > ambiguous. You do NOT put the names of other (pagan) gods in your > mouth....lest they sway you, influence you. It is surmised by some > that these people were also taught meditational techniques by Moses, > some standing/walking techniques, others maybe sitting/contemplative, > prayer-like techniques. So, back to mantras: they are the names of > Hindu deities, end of story. That was the end of TM for me, although > there were other factors that were involved. > > The movements famous or perhaps infamous inability to address the > psychological changes a person undergoes when meditating is one of > the biggest failures. TM has the [possible] ability to alter much > and > the fallback of "you're just unstressing, go and lie down and feel > the body" is laughable and probably irresponsible. I can see that > some people would have been harmed by this flippant and ridiculous > attitude while they were undergoing changes. > > I will end for now on one more note. When my "faith" in the Movement > was undergoing the evaluation that led me to quit that path I could > not digest the possible dissonance of seeing MMY lie to us and also > keep the assumption that he was an enlightened man. I had a > simplistic idea that enlightenment could not allow a person to issue > a lie. I was wrong and/or he was never enlightened, or enlightenment > really is something I do not clearly understand. In any case I could > not hold the two ideas in my mind at the same time. Clearly he had > hoodwinked us ignoramuses in the West by the constant "Vedic" answer > and many of us just didn't ask enough questions or do our homework > out of fear of confronting the hidden and having ourselves outted > from the group. I mean, if you want or need to belong to a group, > you swallow and suppress anything that will be a problem. Up to the > point you cannot do this any more. > > For a long time I held rageful feelings towards MMY because I felt he > had lied to me and I had been misled about many things. I had > listened to him discuss how easy it seemed to get to some > enlightenment.....how we only needed 6 or 7000 fliers and all would > change for the better and a long list of constantly changing promises > and explanations for what is going to be a better day. All of which > did not come about and all of which enriched the movement to > incredible heights. I became bitter and felt very badly about these > feelings. In another post I will share positive feelings/experiences > and where I currently hold MMY in my heart. > > I cannot recommend TM to anyone in my faith as I feel that it would > be a direct contravention of the Torah. Outside of my faith I have > neutral feelings but I would warn them of cheaper and safer > alternative measures/techniques. With the recent photos of the > leadership now splashed all over the world, how anyone in their right > mind can take these people seriously and not see them as faux-Hindu > wannabe's is beyond me. They look so silly I just laughed out loud. > I wish them well and best of luck. > > Regards, > > Fred >
