--- In [email protected], boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I too am no expert in the vagueries of mantra meanings.  The
> point is that they are phrases...meaningless sounds whose
> meaning is known?

(Semantically) meaningless sounds whose *effects*
are known.
 
> Maybe the meaning is that they invoke an energy whose
> association is known and is found within Indian religious
> systems?

Or within *all* religious systems, i.e., within
human experience.

<snip>
> We were told to cut down sacred trees 
> in Palestine because of what they represented to the people who 
> worshipped them.  The tree by itself was not a danger; it was the 
> fact that we might find the worship of a tree of interest and
> before you know it we're off the path.

This is revealing.


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