--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been lurking since the passing, from time to time as such allows. > > I used to live in FF for many years and involved with the TMO since > 1971. I had a great intitation experience and became a > teacher/governor 1974-1976. Sidhi course. (no siddhis) > Travelled in various capacities..World peace project, Phillipines, > Rhode Island, Wash. D.C.. I know of some posting here. > > I mentioned before that I have become a NTB. > > We were told that TM was the fastest way to liberation. > Where did this declaration come from? > > Who believes that the man who started this movement was actually a > Maharishi? > What did he do that would make him such? > > Much is written here that really amazes me and truly indicates the > effects of the TM movement which we were told is from the Sankara > Tradition. > Where did Sankara suggest anything that we were told by this > apparently realized being? Not a satguru. > He himself said I am not a personal guru. > How could he be a satguru then? Guru Tattva is not this model. > > From my view, nothing we were told has any basis of scriptural > foundation. Little is mentioned in this forum of those shastras. > Most of the opinions given are just musings of the egoistic mind and > have no basis in what is Truth. > > Do people seek siddhis for power? > If so, this is a quality of Asuras, demons. > They don't bring enlightenment according to Patanjali. > > Ravana was well versed and in total command of Veda. He was a great > devotee of Shiva and gained boons from Him. > Yet Ravana was a demon. Wanting only more and more. Especially of what > he could not have. It was his downfall. > > Maharishi Kapila who was Vishnu incarnate, and the one who gave us > Sankhya Knowledge, when asked by His mother Devahuti about gaining > liberation from this samsara, said: > "No other way by which yogis may attain the Brahma is more easy and > auspicious that the way of devotion to the Exalted Lord, the Soul in > all that is." > "Only by that steadfastness of mind which is gained by concentrating > it on Me through intense and sustained dvotion can men in this world > achieve Moksha."Srimad Bhagavatam Chapter 25. > > In Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says the same thing...Only through devotion > can one gain liberation. > > Adi Sankara, whose name is invoked as the TMO tradition of Holy > Masters, says "Bhaja Govindam" Singing the names of the Lord > (namasankirtana) is the fastest way and the easiest road. Devotion to > Lord as Guru in "Guru Ashtakam" Many other works of His indicate devotion. > > In verse 12 of "Sri Guru Gita", Lord Shiva continues to tell Parvati > Devi about false gurus... > "If one doesn't know the qualilty of Guru, all the ritualistic > practices, prayers, penances are useless" > In the absence of knowledge of the quaility of Guru all other > knowledges lead but to ignorance, so they are called the agents of > illusion. Shiva says that those who are fond of them are petty minded. > > When was any of this taught in the TMO? > > Kali yuga isn't the best climate for gaining liberation through > meditation. Too much noise. > > Krita yuga...Meditation > Treta yuga...Yagnas > Dvapara yuga..Bhakti > Kali yuga...Namsankirtana > > In the little I have read in this group, little is spoken of prayer. > Little is heard of praising the Lord..Whatever name you wish to give. > Much is said about what all of this is. > Isn't most knowledge posted here referencing what was learned through TMO? > > The effects of TMO manifest as much confusion, little Truth. > > One thing those who spew the negative towards other can count on... > Your Karmic debt is one of bad tastes. > > Moving to Fairfield was the best of my life to that time. > Leaving Fairfield was so freeing of the illusions we had been fed. > I am Grateful to have cleared the bowels of that waste. > > > I pray that those sincere seekers find their way. > There is a Light. > > > Harih Om Tat Sat >
Yeah, but my Guru can beat up YOUR Guru...
