> One thing those who spew the negative towards other can count on... > Your Karmic debt is one of bad tastes.
Uh oh. Not this "teaching" again. How come everyone knows all about my "karmic debt" but my tax guy when I try to deduct for it? > Leaving Fairfield was so freeing of the illusions we had been fed. > I am Grateful to have cleared the bowels of that waste. So leaving Fairfield was like taking a shit for you, but we are being negative and doomed to the "bad tastes?" OK. > I pray that those sincere seekers find their way. > There is a Light. Let me take a wild guess...you know what it is? Am I right? Did I correctly guess that you now have the wonderful liberating knowledge that was promised, but never delivered, in the movement? And does it include prayer perhaps? > In the little I have read in this group, little is spoken of prayer. > Little is heard of praising the Lord..Whatever name you wish to give. Can I pick which one cuz I've always been a big fan of Poseidon's work, did you see his kickass Tsunami? All praise the great sea god! No wait a minute, who is the gut who brings all the presents...is it too late to switch? Cool, I'm going with Santa now, all glorious imaginary ass kissing to Santa Claus! > When was any of this taught in the TMO? After you left the room, it was a huge joke for us. We took it a little too far with you missing out on enlightenment and all so sorry for that. > Kali yuga isn't the best climate for gaining liberation through > meditation. Too much noise. See this is where being a checker really helps, you see noise is no barrier to meditation. When you hear a noise,just treat it like any other thought. Unless the noise sounds like circus music cuz then you had better haul ass before the ice cream truck goes down the street. But after you get your ice cream, just come back to the mantra. < Do people seek siddhis for power? > I wouldn't mind being able to change my cable channels with my mind when I can't find the remote... > If so, this is a quality of Asuras, demons.> Oh my, then no. I'll just find the remote, it's gotta be around here somewhere. > I pray that those sincere seekers find their way. > There is a Light. As they say: "nothing fails like prayer, just ask anyone who ever went down in a plane." > > Harih Om Tat Sat Hey don't try those Kung Fu phrases in here we are all trained in mixed martial arts including Shotokan "one strike one kill" Karate! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, netineti3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have been lurking since the passing, from time to time as such allows. > > I used to live in FF for many years and involved with the TMO since > 1971. I had a great intitation experience and became a > teacher/governor 1974-1976. Sidhi course. (no siddhis) > Travelled in various capacities..World peace project, Phillipines, > Rhode Island, Wash. D.C.. I know of some posting here. > > I mentioned before that I have become a NTB. > > We were told that TM was the fastest way to liberation. > Where did this declaration come from? > > Who believes that the man who started this movement was actually a > Maharishi? > What did he do that would make him such? > > Much is written here that really amazes me and truly indicates the > effects of the TM movement which we were told is from the Sankara > Tradition. > Where did Sankara suggest anything that we were told by this > apparently realized being? Not a satguru. > He himself said I am not a personal guru. > How could he be a satguru then? Guru Tattva is not this model. > > From my view, nothing we were told has any basis of scriptural > foundation. Little is mentioned in this forum of those shastras. > Most of the opinions given are just musings of the egoistic mind and > have no basis in what is Truth. > > Do people seek siddhis for power? > If so, this is a quality of Asuras, demons. > They don't bring enlightenment according to Patanjali. > > Ravana was well versed and in total command of Veda. He was a great > devotee of Shiva and gained boons from Him. > Yet Ravana was a demon. Wanting only more and more. Especially of what > he could not have. It was his downfall. > > Maharishi Kapila who was Vishnu incarnate, and the one who gave us > Sankhya Knowledge, when asked by His mother Devahuti about gaining > liberation from this samsara, said: > "No other way by which yogis may attain the Brahma is more easy and > auspicious that the way of devotion to the Exalted Lord, the Soul in > all that is." > "Only by that steadfastness of mind which is gained by concentrating > it on Me through intense and sustained dvotion can men in this world > achieve Moksha."Srimad Bhagavatam Chapter 25. > > In Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says the same thing...Only through devotion > can one gain liberation. > > Adi Sankara, whose name is invoked as the TMO tradition of Holy > Masters, says "Bhaja Govindam" Singing the names of the Lord > (namasankirtana) is the fastest way and the easiest road. Devotion to > Lord as Guru in "Guru Ashtakam" Many other works of His indicate devotion. > > In verse 12 of "Sri Guru Gita", Lord Shiva continues to tell Parvati > Devi about false gurus... > "If one doesn't know the qualilty of Guru, all the ritualistic > practices, prayers, penances are useless" > In the absence of knowledge of the quaility of Guru all other > knowledges lead but to ignorance, so they are called the agents of > illusion. Shiva says that those who are fond of them are petty minded. > > When was any of this taught in the TMO? > > Kali yuga isn't the best climate for gaining liberation through > meditation. Too much noise. > > Krita yuga...Meditation > Treta yuga...Yagnas > Dvapara yuga..Bhakti > Kali yuga...Namsankirtana > > In the little I have read in this group, little is spoken of prayer. > Little is heard of praising the Lord..Whatever name you wish to give. > Much is said about what all of this is. > Isn't most knowledge posted here referencing what was learned through TMO? > > The effects of TMO manifest as much confusion, little Truth. > > One thing those who spew the negative towards other can count on... > Your Karmic debt is one of bad tastes. > > Moving to Fairfield was the best of my life to that time. > Leaving Fairfield was so freeing of the illusions we had been fed. > I am Grateful to have cleared the bowels of that waste. > > > I pray that those sincere seekers find their way. > There is a Light. As they say: "nothing fails like prayer, just ask anyone who ever went down in a plane." > > Harih Om Tat Sat Hey don't try those Kung Fu phrases in here we are all trained in mixed martial arts including Shotokan "one strike one kill" Karate! >
