On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Hugo wrote:
We've talked about this before here Hugo. One of the disturbing
things
is the blank slate recommendation of Amrit Kalash in patients
undergoing chemo and radiation therapy, to make them more
"comfortable". The disturbing thing is that one of the primary
ingredients in Amrit Kalash paste is the Indian fruit, "amla"
(emblica
officinalis). Amla is a fruit that has over a thousand times the
free-
radical scavenging activity that vitamin C has. But that's not the
disturbing part. The disturbing part is that this will interfere
with
certain mechanisms of tumor necrosis. In other words, they
potentially
shunt the effectiveness of Oncological radiation therapy and
certain
chemotherapies whose mechanism of action is free radical damage.
Thanks for the info, I'm glad others have noticed this, it's
rare to get people in the TMO to comment on anything that
flies in the face of the recieved wisdom. Usually things are
rationalised in some way like it's your karma or you have a
bad chart. Or. most likely, not talked about at all.
Yes, so true.
This is really just scraping the surface, but also consider the known
relationship between estrogen replacement therapy and breast cancer.
What happens to women who develop breast CA while taking certain plant
estrogens or women who are genetically predisposed to breast cancer
and are imbibing plant estrogens? There's always the danger that the
presence of such compounds can accelerate tumor growth.
Imagine having a tumor or tumors growing throughout your body then
being giving treatment to destroy those specific tissues--but then
because a guru authority figure (or his followers) suggest false
information on an "Ayurvedic snakeoil", you unknowingly forestall
your
own therapy and reduce or eliminate it's real effectiveness by
taking
the recommended herbal preparation. What happens? You do not heal:
you
die a slow death.
I know someone doing just this and I really feel for them,
it will be too late if they don't go to a proper doctor
soon. A big risk to take but faith is powerful. I've said
they should maybe try both chemo and ayurveda just so they
can get some help but it sounds like that might not work
either.
I've seen a number of cases like this, it's often difficult to argue
with people who hold such irrational magical beliefs, esp. when
indoctrinated along with hypnosis-like meditation techniques.
I find that I can't criticise them too much, they are so
steeped in the belief system and sound so convinced they
are doing the right thing for themselves, even though
it's life and death you have to respect peoples right to
do their own thing. All I can do is offer an opinion. I
think there is a crime being committed here.
Oh, most definitely. Like I say, this movement has some blood on it's
hands.
When I make the claim that the Maharishi has blood on his hands,
this
is one of the reasons (above and beyond the suicides, etc.). IMO,
those members of the TM org or it's zealous followers, who
recommend
these herbal products without proper knowledge of tumor necrosis
mechanisms and the corresponding mechanisms of the herbal
compounds
themselves should be brought up on charges of practicing medicine
without a license, at the very least.
Another case that you might have heard about ayurveda is
the mercury poisoning somebody had from MAV products bought
in India, they are currently suing the TMO, haven't heard
anymore about it but shall copy it over if I hear anything
new.
Yeah, there's a number of source for such a thing, so it can be hard
to sort out. For example many Ayurvedic preparations, esp. "siddha
medicines" and rasa preparations, contain "humanized" mercury products
which are believed to be safe, if prepared properly. It's the prepared
properly part that in a third world country can get you killed.
Another source of mercury and heavy metals can obtained from
disreputable ayurvedic drug companies who get herbs from old
industrial sites or riverbanks near industrial sites where heavy
metals may be found. This is also a known issue with Chinese
medicines. On top of this consider that these herbs are then greatly
concentrated to form extracts.
Strangely enough, an old girlfriend of mine had a friend
who was a real TMer, been on Mother Divine and lived the
whole movement thing, right diet, channel on all day etc
etc. She got mercury poisoning about ten years ago. I was
amazed that someone as clean living could have got ill
like that. It seemed a genuine puzzle, I guess I know now.
It was be interesting to know whether or not she relied solely on MAPI
products or not.
I don't know how the sorry tale ended because I lost
contact with my friend. But unbelievable eh?
Actually VERY believable. I know I myself could just have easily
poisoned myself using such products. I now only use Ayurvedic products
from reputable companies and forego all Chinese herbal medicines.
