--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing 
> on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are 
> still closely associated with the TMO? 

And there is a good reason for this.  If they had 
started having "good experiences" and tried to talk
about them within the TMO, what would have happened
to them?  Among the teachers, even the teachers of
so-called advanced techniques, there is no one who
has been trained to deal with such experiences.  In
the general milieu, the "We don't speak about our
experiences" dogma has been interpreted as "Anyone 
who does is delusional and should be put down and 
shunned."

It's actually very sad.  And in answer to some of the
people who have asked me why, since I walked away from
the TMO 25 years ago, I hang out at this place, it's
because Rick has provided a forum in which it is OK
to talk about such things.  When it all comes down,
there is nothing meaningful we can say about enlight-
enment itself.  *By definition* it cannot be described.
But we can talk about our particular path, and the
adventures we have had along that path, and share with 
others our own subjective experiences, in an ongoing 
attempt to understand them, or even to come to grips
with them.

For me, that's a rare and unique opportunity, not just
within the environment of the TMO, but within any
spiritual group.  I think it's a neat thing.  Others
are threatened by it.  Go figure.

Unc






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