--- In [email protected],
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Akasha 108 writes:
> Though as Tom has claimed there are 58 million flavors of awakening 
> at the Awakening /IceCream store. I just wonder if plain vanilla is
> really the same as triple jamaca almond machadamion nut ghee-fudge
> blueberry mocha mintchip chavanaprash cherry saffron swirl with gold
> leaf topping?
> 
> Tom T writes: Welcome back again Akasha. I have missed our little
> exchanges. 

Hi Tom, Thanks.

> Actually I think that I was claiming that there are about 7
> trillion flavors in the Awakening/Ice cream store. 

yes, I could not recall your "exact" number so "fudged". (fudge ripple
accually :) )

> About as many as
> there needs to be to allow all to have the unique experience they 
> need
> to have to wake up. Seems to be pretty straightforward to me that IT
> is filtered through each unique set of DNA, why wouldn't it have to > be
> unique for each.  See you all next week. Tom T


That Awareness is expressed in the lifes of all in infinite ways is of
little surprise. However, what I was seeking to confirm (or refute if
there is no confirmation -- same process) is that there is some
commonality to the so called experience of so called awakening. As a
rough analogy, while all humans are unique and different, there are
are core features of commonality that allow them to be classified as
homo-sapiens.

And remember my "vector" here, I am not in need of or (desparately)
searching for a logical and consistent framework for "awakening". As
you know, I have yet to see the value of such labeling and
classsification. I don't (often) engage in it. ("not often", instead
of "never", since it is a habit -- resulting from past training -- but
a habit that is fading.) However since Peter offered up a definition,
I simply asked if that one feature was both necessary and sufficient
to define "CC. He chose not to answer directly but gave some wonderful
Peter-speak. 

Though I don't choose to label people or experiences with the
"enlightenment" and "awakening" categories, since others do, I do ask
for their definitions to help clarify communications. When Rick or
others talk about so many new "awakenings" in FF, I have no idea what
he is realy referring to experientially - since this term appears to
be used by different people in quite different ways. Language and
communications are subverted when a single term has many meanings (and
can't  be deciphered by context). 

I raised the definitional issue with Peter because on the continuum of
experiences "around here", there are other salient features other than
or beyond  "no doer". I wonder there are similar experiences "over
there". It occurs to me that if "no doer" is "all" that is meant by
"awakening", that this is a fairly primitive marker of growing
wholeness and spiritual unfoldment. That "many" are experiencing this
is not surprising. And explains why such "awakened' ones talk, act and
react in ways that appear inconsistent with other, perhaps deeper,
features of unfoldment.






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