I have a question about Ohm. I got some mantras from one of MMY Pudits - a Professor in Sanskrit - and the instruction how to use it - and they contain Ohm. I am meditating TM of course - but when I use the Mantras with OHM, they are very powerful and blissfull - and gives a lot of energy. So when you say "householders", do you only mean celebacy - or do you mean common activities in the society as well. I have a lot of common activities in society, and I do not find The Ohm mantras are any hindrance for that. Quite opposite, I think. So I was really surprised when I in this Forum, learned the Ohm- Mantras in not for women. Ingegerd
--- In [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound; > > > > > > OM is the first sound of creation, it contains all the energy in an > undifferentiated form that is later structured by the hymns of the > Vedas. So if you are living in a cave, using OM as a mantra, which > aligns one with the undifferentiated, is OK, since a cave dweller does > not need to function in society. But OM (used a mantra for meditation, > not just the occasional use in saying a prayer or whatever) is a > problem for a householder who needs to function in many differentiated > ways, that's why there are householder mantras (derived from the Rig > Veda). As far as ladies not using OM as a mantra, I have read a lot of > Vedic literature and I don't recall any (human) ladies following the > recluse path (although there were certainly some fascinating stories of > ladies leading their husbands to enlightenment like Queen Cuddala does > for Sikhidvaja in the Yoga Vasistha), so because the householder path > is the way to go for ladies, this would lead to barring the possibility > of use of OM mantra for ladies. > > > Maharishi on sanyasi mantra (OM): > > http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/beacon/beacon2.shtml > > "he mantras that suit the Sanyasis can never suit the householders. > Hundreds of God-loving and God-fearing families, have been ruined due > to the destructive effects of Sanyasa Mantra viz, "Om". "Om" destroys > desires and also destroys the objects of desires and therefore it > produces calmness of mind and renunciation and detachment from material > life only to Sanyasis when they repeat Om; to them it brings the > experience of peace of mind and from this experience they generally > recommend the chanting of 'Om' to their followers. But when a > householder repeats Om, he experiences that as long as he is > repeating 'Om' he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out to indulge > in business or household work, he finds that the air is against his > desire and schemes. The silencing effect on the mind and destructive > effects in material life, both are experienced side by side. Some > people say that we should ignore material life in regard to the > devotional practices and Mantras. But this is a fool's ideology. Can > you possibly ignore the considerations of material life, when the > Mantras do affect it? Select a path which will make you happier in your > material life also. Do not live in a fool's paradise. Do not think that > your sufferings end miseries of today will work as reservations in the > galleries of heaven for tomorrow. Be peaceful and happy in the present > and try to make this state permanent. This is the path of Deliverance > in Life Jeevan-Mukti, the most exalted state in human existence, the > state of abiding Peace and Eternal Bliss. And this you are entitled to > have through correct and suitable Sadhana. And because the Mantras play > an important role in the field of Sadhana, you must be very very > careful in the selection of the Mantra. The theory of Mantras is the > theory of sound. It is most scientific and natural. Ladies should never > repeat any Mantra beginning with Om. The pronounciation of Om is like > fire to the ladies. This is the practical experience of many devoted > ladies who repeated 'Om Namah Shivaya' or 'Om Namonarayanaya' or 'Om > Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya' or any such mantra beginning with Om. It > cannot be God's wish that you should suffer in your devotion to him. Do > not cling to the unhelpful Mantras. The moment you find you have got > into the wrong train, it is wise to get down from it as soon as > possible. It is foolish to stick on to the wrong train and go wherever > it takes you." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
