On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, >> and >> yogic siddhis will block the path. > > So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or > disagreed > with it and felt the sidhis would culture CC?
No, I seriously doubt that Rick. What was needed was something that would titillate and sell. You've heard the discussions here where those privy to the creation the TMSP said so. M. even states clearly in an early lecture that the means to CC was nirvakalpa samadhi. When we hear of people going into samadhi for hours or days at a time and then THAT becoming permanent then it will become believable. The truth of the matter is, such depth in practice takes great skill and personal attention from a teacher. That level of personal attention simply isn't generally available in mass-meditation movements. And also progressing rapidly for some people, to reveal enlightenment in one lifetime can be very dangerous. You think there were lawsuits in the past? Try giving truly skillful methods en masse to untested groups of people. Then you'd see some real lawsuits as groups of unprepared people went utterly insane. Not that that hasn't happened already... The samkhya teaching which forms a kind of preface to the Patanjali tradition is clear--you must collect and maintain certain virtues and then the attainment siddhis (not the yogic siddhis) are naturally accomplished. Eventually you will gain the capacity for seedless meditation which will dissolve the kleshas and the samskaras. Then real turiyatita/CC can become apparent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
