on 6/19/05 12:05 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 6/19/05 11:34 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> On Jun 19, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: >> >>> on 6/19/05 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>> In other words--it's a lot deeper that simple meditation this path, >>>> and >>>> yogic siddhis will block the path. >>> >>> So do you think MMY knew this and wanted to block people's CC, or >>> disagreed >>> with it and felt the sidhis would culture CC? >> >> No, I seriously doubt that Rick. What was needed was something that >> would titillate and sell. You've heard the discussions here where those >> privy to the creation the TMSP said so. M. even states clearly in an >> early lecture that the means to CC was nirvakalpa samadhi. When we hear >> of people going into samadhi for hours or days at a time and then THAT >> becoming permanent then it will become believable. > > I once heard a story, possibly from someone who witnessed the incident (but > I'm not sure) that Maharishi and a few of his disciples were visiting > another guru and a few of his. The other guru told one of his disciples to > go into samadhi. After he had done so, the guru instructed his disciples to > try to disturb him. They made noise, pushed him around, etc., but he was > oblivious. The other guru asked M, "can any of your disciples do that?" M > replied, "Not yet."
I want to add that there are numerous stories of Ammachi, in her younger days, going into samadhi like this. Even breath would stop and no pulse would be detected for hours. People thought she had died. In light of this, and your comments, I wonder again about the possible distinction between the enlightenment attained by this type of person and that attained by folks around Fairfield. The latter insist that theirs is essentially the same, but that a "saint" such as Amma just has a different role to play, and thus manifests powerful darshan, siddhis, extraordinary energy, etc. Different "job description." Kind of like light bulbs of different wattage all plugged into the same power source. All experience the same electricity subjectively, but some are designed to emanate brighter light. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
