--Statements below contradict the testimony of Ramakrishna.  He 
stated that he's having another incarnation, to commence 200 years 
after his death.  This would entail a whole new venue of agendas for 
mankind, as we head into a true "Heaven on Earth", with TM (and other 
objectives) made accessible to everybody. Thus, Enlightended people 
can spin a whole new web of karma for mankind if they desire, even if 
they are free of it themselves.


- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following article: i) extends the categores of Karma posted by 
Vaj
> a bit ago (from deFouw and Svoboda), ii) clarifies (perhaps) the 
prior
> discussion of videha-mukti and death, and ii) addresses the perenial
> question on FFL of why some gyani's act in non-gyani fashion (as
> conceptualized by non-gyanis). 
> 
> --------------------------
> http://www.mudgala.com/articles/gyani_actions.html
> 
> In this day and age, when it is normal practice to evaluate not only
> students, but even professors and our peers (peer-review), we find
> ourselve in the business of judging those we take to be gyanis.
> 
> Often, we find them doing things that are not "gyani-like". Of 
course,
> we define what a gyani should be like as we wish, without regards to
> shastra.
> 
> In particular, we all know that gyanis are beyond likes and 
dislikes.
> Yet, we sometimes feel that they act like the common man. They seem 
to
> get angry, or feel sad. How do we explain this?
> 
> We need to understand the nature of karma.
> 
> Karma
> 
> There are three kinds of karma:
> 
>    1. Prarabdha - Action from past births that have led to the 
current
> birth. These karmas are only exhausted when the doer experiences 
them.
> 
>    2. Sanchita - Action from past births which are set to fructify 
in
> future births. If we take another birth, these karmas will fructify.
> For gyanis, who will not take another birth, these karmas have no 
effect.
> 
>    3. Aagaami - The karmas performed after one becomes a gyani. 
These
> are not reaped by the gyani, but by mankind in general. Thus, when 
we
> say that a swami is performing good for mankind, this is exactly 
true.
> In Tattwa-bodha, we are told that a gyani's good karmas go to his
> well-wishers, and bad karmas go to his ill-wishers. 
> 
> Thus, two of the three kinds of karma, aagaami & sanchita karma have
> no effect on the gyani. This is because the aagaami karma is
> experienced by mankind, and sanchita karma has no opportunity to
> fructify since the gyani does not take another birth. Thus, after 
the
> dawn of knowledge, a gyani continues to interact with the world so
> long as prarabdha karma remains.
> 
> 
> Prarabdha Karma and Gyanis
> 
> The nature of prarabdha karma is brought up by Shankaracharya in his
> Vivekachudamani:
> 
> Like an arrow released towards its target, the karma begun before 
the
> dawn of knowledge (prarabdha) is not destroyed by gyana. 454.
> 
> Now, we can understand the following verses from the famed 
Panchadashi.
> 
> Once he is convinced of the unreality of the world, a knower, with
> mind undisturbed, allows his prarabdha karma to wear out, and 
engages
> himself in worldly affairs accordingly. 7-131.
> 
> Do not fear irregularity when the wise engage themselves in actions
> according to their Karma. Even if it happens, let it be; who can
> prevent the karma? 7-132.
> 
> In the experience of their prarabdha karma, the enlightened and the
> unenlightened alike have no choice; but the knower is patient and
> undisturbed, whereas an ignorant man is impatient and suffers pain 
and
> grief. 7-133
> 
> If by the force of his prarabdha karma, a wise man is compelled to
> enjoy the fruits of desires, he does so with indifference and great
> reluctance like a man who is impressed for labour. 7-143.
> 
> Once the prarabdha karma is exhausted, the seer either attains
> videha-mukti (i.e. death), or, he is in constant one-ness with the
> paramatma. Thus, prarabdha karma is a great blessing to the world, 
as
> the world can benefit when the gyani interacts with it. If prarabdha
> karma were burned up in the fire of gyana, the only medium of 
teaching
> from these great masters would be pure silence.
> 
> Types of Gyanis
> 
> Thus, it is also possible to grade gyanis based on the amount of
> interaction with the world. Those with larger interaction with the
> world have a larger reservoir of this karma to exhaust. Swami
> Chandrashekara Bharati brings this out beautifully (VC 459). They 
are
> graded, in ascending order of superiority:
> 
>    1. One who has adopted sannyasa for the fruition of his gyana, 
and
> abides in sattwa guna. He is a brahmavit.
> 
>    2. One who gets out of his samadhi of his own volition, by the
> force of his own karma. Happiness and sadness pertain to him. He is 
a
> brahmavidarah.
> 
>    3. One who is responsive when awakened by others. When awake, he 
is
> connected with the prarabdha karma. He is a brahmavidariyan.
> 
>    4. One who has reached the transcendant, and is unresponsive even
> when awakened by others. His prarabdha karma is exhausted, and thus,
> has no effect on him. He is a brahmavidvarishthah.
> 
> Madhusudana Saraswati says that a tattva-gyani (knower of the truth)
> may not be a jivan-mukta (liberated while living). The yogi of the
> highest order is one who is both a tattva-gyani and a jivan-mukta.
> However, he also clarifies, that there is absolutely no doubt that
> both classes of gyanis will reach videha-kaivalya. i.e. liberation
> upon the falling of the body. (BG 6.36)
> 
> Gyanis and Prarabdha Karma
> 
> What is the nature of the gyanis interaction with the world when
> prarabdha karma is in play? Swami Vidyaranya quotes the Gita in the
> Panchadashi:
> 
> O Arjuna, your own karma, produced by your own nature, compels you 
to
> do things, even though you may not want to do them. B.G 18.60
> 
> The Ashtavakra Gita gives us a perfect example:
> 
> Like a dry leaf blown about by the winds of prarabdha karma from
> previous lives, the desireless, independant, free, liberated person
> moves about.
> 
> The gyani is compelled to interact with the world, as is his nature
> formed over a multitude of previous births, without attachment to
> them. Since they have no effect on the gyani, and since there is no
> doer-ship attached to it, there is no fault in this.
> 
> The illusion of action
> 
> After all, it is us (the ignorant) who superimpose action on the
> gyani. In reality, the gyani does nothing, so there is nothing for 
us
> to judge.
> 
> He ... does nothing, even if he be acting vigorously in the eyes of
> the world. AG 19.19
> 
> It may be difficult for us to see inaction in the multitude around 
us,
> but thankfully, we have an entire vedanta tradition designed to take
> us there. All of us strive to become yogis of one kind or another, 
and
> as the Gita puts it:
> 
> He who recognizes inaction in action, and action in inaction is a
> yogi. BG 4.18.
> 
> Conclusion
> 
> The gyanis move about in accordance to their prarabdha karma. Let us
> stop judging them. Let us learn from them actively, so that we may
> develop our own sanchita karma. Let us praise them, so that we may
> benefit from their positive agami karmas.
> 
> Sources
> 
>     * [AB] Swami Tejomayananda. Atma Bodha.
>     * [AG] Ashtavakra Gita
>     * [BG] Swami Madhusudana Saraswati. Bhagavad Gita. trans. Swami
> Gambhirananda.
>     * [PA] Swami Vidyaranya. Panchadashi. trans. Swami Swahananda.
>     * [VC] Swami Chandrashekara Bharati. Viveka Chudamani. trans. P.
> Sankaranarayanan. 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Per this framwork, if a gyani had some odd sexual and business 
karma,
> the unfoldment of such could look bizzare to onlookers. But it is 
not
> volitional nor stemming from unresolved vasanas needs). its "taking 
it
> (Prarabdha karma) as it comes."
> 
> Further, if a guru takes on students with odd Prarabdha karma, the
> teacher might construct what appear to be quite odd exercises for 
the
> students to pursue, to accelerate the burning up of Prarabdha karma
> which is non-conducive for the transmission of knowledge -- enabling
> the students to be more pure teachers  -- and maximizing the
> generation of benificial Aagaami karma for the benefit of mankind.
> 
> MMY appears to be a brahmavidariyan,  one who is responsive when
> awakened by others. Thus he is connected with the prarabdha karma.  
> Due to his apparent rapid attainmet of gyani from the blessing of 
Guru
> Dev, it is POSSIBLE that he has / had remaining substantial amounts 
of
> worldly prarabdha karma - including sexual, and this has 
unfolded "in
> front of him".




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