--- In [email protected], "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > The following article: i) extends the categores of Karma posted by 
> Vaj a bit ago (from deFouw and Svoboda), ii) clarifies (perhaps) the 
> prior  discussion of videha-mukti and death, and ii) addresses the 
> perenial  question on FFL of why some gyani's act in non-gyani
fashion (as conceptualized by non-gyanis). 
> > 
> > --------------------------
> > http://www.mudgala.com/articles/gyani_actions.html
> (snip)
> 
> 
> > ----------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Per this framwork, if a gyani had some odd sexual and business 
> karma, the unfoldment of such could look bizzare to onlookers. But
it is  not volitional nor stemming from unresolved vasanas needs). 
> its "taking it (Prarabdha karma) as it comes."
 


> So this means that a gyani's karma(action) in a previous life led 
> him to a place in a present life where he had to fuck someone and he 
> could not say no? Hoo boy, that's a good one.
> 
> Rick Carlstrom



Yes, its easy to be smug about such things. And perhaps you have a
more accurate model of karma. Or perhaps you hold that karma does not
exist.

In your above point, why is saying "no" superior to saying "yes"? In a
gyani, what is it that is saying / deciding "yes" or "no"?

I have found the Angora trilogy by Robert Svoboda quite fascinating
regarding his teachers experience with karma. Have you read it? The
resolution (or reseeding) of past sexual encounters is so prominent
that this type of karma even has its own name. 

What are your views on karma:

Do you hold that karma does not exist? If so, do you have an
alternative model of action?

Do you think "liberation" has anything to do with deactivating seeds
of karma?

Do you think a liberated one has absolutely no karma returning to them
in this life / body?

If you believe there is some returning karma (Prarabdha karma) even
for a liberated one, to what degree do you believe it shapes their
lives?  What happens to them when this karma is burned up?

When people talk of their experiences of "no-doer", what is the role
of karma in that state? 

Or have you never thought about such things and are generally
oblivious to action and its results?  







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