"I am just as sincere in my belief that ancient spiritual beliefs keep mankind in ignorant bondage..."-- taking what Tat Wale Baba said about world peace being essentially a state created inside first and then reflected outside, i am curious about this expression of yours. i am not picking on you, though i am wondering why this is particularly important to you. after all, i could say that those in ignorant bondage to ancient spiritual beliefs have only themselves to blame- problem solved, or at least the responsibility shifts from those propagating the harmful ancient spiritual beliefs to those being taken in by them. no audience, no more harmful ancient spiritual practices. chicken vs egg.
i have always pursued spiritual enquiry as a deeply personal and ultimately personally responsible endeavor. in plain english, if i fuck up, the finger points right back at me and no one else. in other words, there probably aren't any perfect paths to enlightenment or greater happiness, save those we craft for ourselves. to look at the spiritual landscape out there and declare every teacher, tradityion and religion flawed in some respect is a good thing, however i think we also have to watch out for the baby getting tossed out with the bathwater. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > some people have real hot buttons when it comes to > > spiritual/religion. wanted to know more about yours is all. thanks > > again. > > I would like to elevate "hot buttons" to my personal philosophical > cause. I am just as sincere in my belief that ancient spiritual > beliefs keep mankind in ignorant bondage as Maharishi was that his > meditation solved all the world's problems. My POV is in the > minority, but the numbers are growing. Just the fact that a > mainstream movie like Religulous could come out gives me hope for a > dawning new age...let's see what shall we call this new age of > skepticism against superstitious beliefs...I know an Age of > Enlightenment, an age of reason! > > Thanks again for keeping the rap going. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey, thanks for hitting the ball back and continuing the > > discussion. > > > That is what the place is all about IMO. > > > > > > > i like what the Maharishi said many times that we need to know > > who > > > > we are before knowing what anyone or anything else is. > > > > > > Didn't this seem more profound when we were young and didn't really > > > "know ourselves?" Since I turned the corner on 50, I am pretty > > much > > > expert in knowing who I am. Aren't you? > > > > although i know my personality pretty well at this point, i > > literally learn something new every moment, sometimes pretty > > profound stuff (to me anyway). its an infinite universe in/out there. > > > > > I don't believe that knowing myself is improved by meditating a lot > > > though. The ability of my mind to experience silence is the most > > > boring part of myself. Not that I don't think that having access > > to a > > > quit state of mind isn't helpful or enjoyable. And I give credit > > for > > > Maharishi for providing a technique that made it easy for me. But > > I > > > believe he oversold the benifits. Especially concerning how this > > > state relates to our epistemological perspective. YMMV > > > > > > > Guru Dev? Great energy from what i can tell. haven't studied his > > > > writings very closely. > > > > > > > > Shankara? no clue really. > > > > > > So what was the motivation to defend them by challenging my right > > to > > > criticize them? That is kind of interesting isn't it? > > > > > some people have real hot buttons when it comes to > > spiritual/religion. wanted to know more about yours is all. thanks > > again. > > >