--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I doubt whether it's possible to educate you. The point is very > simple. This is what the idiot Palin claimed, that the VP is "in > charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in > there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes." > > The statement is untrue, as I have pointed out. The VP is not "in > charge" of the Senate.
Uh, actually the VP is "in charge of" the Senate...at least according to the dictionary and thesaurus. Sorry that you discount the authority of the dictionary but, again, the phrase "in charge of" pretty much is the same as "presides". Here is what dictionary.com says about the phrases "in charge" and "in charge of" under "charge": 48. in charge, a. in command; having supervisory power. b. British. under arrest; in or into the custody of the police. 49. in charge of, a. having the care or supervision of: She is in charge of two libraries. b. Also, in the charge of. under the care or supervision of: The books are in the charge of the accounting office. ...and then when you look up the word "supervise" -- which prevails in the dictionary definition of "in charge of" -- in the thesaurus, we find that "preside over" is listed as a synonym: Main Entry: supervise Part of Speech: verb Definition: manage people, project Synonyms: administer, be in charge, be in driver's seat, be in the saddle, be on duty, be responsible for, boss, call the play, call the shots*, chaperon, conduct, control, crack the whip, deal with, direct, handle, inspect, keep an eye on, look after, overlook, oversee, preside over, quarterback, ride herd on*, run, run the show, run things, sit on top of, superintend, survey, take care of Antonyms: serve So Palin was exactly right when she said the VP is "in charge of" the Senate. > Senators are in charge of the Senate and resist > pressure from outside. Ask LBJ, who became VP in 1961 and thought he > could influence the Democrats in the Senate by attending their > meetings. They froze him out. > > It would be much easier if you tried to educate yourself for a change. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > You are missing the point entirely, and no dictionary or thesaurus > > can > > > save you. > > > > > > > > If I'm "missting the point entirely", why don't you educate me? > > > > That is if you have any point to make. > > > > But I suspect that you don't...at least, not any longer... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That is not being "in charge" of the Senate! VP > > merely "presides," has > > > > > no influence other than casting tie-breaking vote. > > > > > > > > Dictionary.com disagrees with you, feste37: > > > > > > > > Preside > > > > > > > > Pre*side"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. Presided; p. pr. & vb. n. > > Presiding.] > > > > [L. praesidere; prae before + sedere to sit: cf. F. pr['e] sider. > > See > > > > Sit.] > > > > > > > > 1. To be set, or to sit, in the place of authority; to occupy the > > place > > > > of president, chairman, moderator, director, etc.; to direct, > > control, > > > > and regulate, as chief officer; as, to preside at a public > > meeting; to > > > > preside over the senate. > > > > > > > > 2. To exercise superintendence; to watch over. > > > > > > > > Some o'er the public magazines preside. --Dryden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....and the thesaurus at the same website makes the case stronger: > > > > > > > > Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition > > > > Main Entry: preside > > > > Part of Speech: verb > > > > Definition: be in authority > > > > Synonyms: administer, advise, be at the head of, be in driver's > > seat, > > > > call the signals, carry on, chair, conduct, control, direct, do > > the > > > > honors, govern, handle, head, head up, keep, lead, manage, > > officiate, > > > > operate, ordain, oversee, pull the strings, run, run the show, > > sit on > > > > top of, supervise > > > > Antonyms: follow, serve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams > > <willytex@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vice President was "in charge" of the US Senate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As designated by the Constitution of the United States, > > > > > > the vice president also serves as the President of the > > Senate, > > > > > > and may break tie votes in that chamber. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
