Three quick additional points: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: <snip> > > > Why are we intolerant of the lies of people outside > > > FFL but perfectly fine with the lies of those within > > > it? Why do we not tolerate lying from important > > > public figures, but don't see anything wrong with > > > lying by our associates? > > > > > > Why the double standard? > > > > > it seems to be in respective interpretations of the FFL group > > description: > > > > "Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and > > finders) of truth and liberation everywhere." > > > > for me, if someone is just deliberately distorting > > stuff or even making it up out of their desire to > > get a rise out of others, i am not really > > interested in that > > That isn't why Barry does it. That's his *excuse* > for doing it, but it's transparently false. He > does it in the hope that other people will believe > what he says.
Willytex is an example of someone who *does* do this. He's a classic troll. But more people tend to engage him about his lies than they do Barry about his. > ; it isn't a topic of interest for me. > > rather than take the person to task for it, i just > > move on. > > I don't think that's an ethical approach. > > Do you not recall a few days ago, when Barry > was spewing his fantasies about you, you got > pretty bent out of shape? And when I stood up > for you, you thanked me. > > > with regard to a double standard on lies from > > public figures vs those here, it is all in the > > ramifications of the lies. if someone on this > > forum lies or distorts stuff, what is the > > result? nothing, really. > > I think this is a bogus excuse for laissez-faire > laziness. > > We should hold everyone to the same standard. If > our standards are lax where our associates are > concerned, I should add, especially those associates who lie blatantly and habitually. we aren't going to be likely to be > able to accurately evaluate the truthfulness of > public figures. We may find that we employ lower > standards for public figures we're predisposed > to like, and come down unreasonably hard on those > we don't like. With regard to our associates who lie, we see this dynamic clearly in the dichotomy I mentioned above between how people respond to Willytex, who is a right-winger, and to Barry, who's distinctly a leftie. Barry gets a pass because most of us here lean left. > Double standards perpetuate and reinforce > unfairness, in other words.