On Jun 25, 2005, at 9:42 PM, sparaig wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2005, at 8:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 25, 2005, at 4:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vaj, reading over your words, you make TM sound so difficult,
>>>>> arduous even, if done correctly. I initially understood it to
> be a
>>>>> stress release technique, and still do it as such. I had a job
>>>>> recently where I awakened at 4:30am for a 60 mile commute. I was
>>>>> always exhausted on my return each day and religiously fell
> asleep
>>>>> during every evening meditation.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't talking about TM but about a similar meditation practice
> that
>>>> goes about 5 stages beyond TM-style meditation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, I see. So in its beginning stages, its easy, but in the more
>>> advanced stages, it gets difficult?
>>
>> Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to
>> "transcend" for four hours at a time, effortlessly. One sits down,
>> decides how long they will meditate and finishes when they intend
> to.
>
> And you have documentation of this?

Well yes, the text themselves, but more important are good oral 
instructions.



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