--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > > I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences 
in  
> > > > > many cases...
> > > > 
> > > > I completely understand...
> > > 
> > > Explain it to unc...
> > 
> > Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal
> > experiences in many cases.
> 
> Maybe, but I'm suspicious for my own reasons, not because
> someone told me to be.  :-)
> 
> The bottom line here, guys, is that both of you rely on
> the testimony and advice of people you consider "experts"
> for how to live your daily lives, and how to achieve your 
> spiritual goals.  You tend to follow the experts' instruc-
> tions to the letter, and when they pay off and you have
> a "good experience," you give the credit to the expert,
> or to formula he/she sells, or the God he/she represents.
> 

Perhaps, but in the case of TM, what formula? Hell, most days I can't 
even remember my mantra well enough to think it clearly, letalone say 
it outloud.

> Me, I just muddle through, make my own decisions, and 
> have really neat spiritual experiences anyway.  Face it,
> there is nothing more threatening to the person who
> "does everything right" than the person who "does every-
> thing wrong" and has the same kinds of experiences that
> the do-it-right-ers have.  It gives rise to the heretical 
> idea that, in the world of spiritual practice, "formulas"
> for realizing enlightenment may just be something to 
> distract the seeker while the realization unfolds itself
> to itself, and that what you actually do on a daily basis 
> to cultivate that realization doesn't matter a bit.
> 
> Unc




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