Marek: Aside from the comments I-am-the-Eternal made in the post about naming kids in the African-American community, what else has he said that indicates he is a racist?
Or is that all that you are referring to? I can't seem to find another "original post" that he made that I can construe as racist...perhaps it's there but I can't find it. If anyone knows, please tell me so I can look at it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <reavisma...@...> wrote: > > Shemp, I missed the remark you posted from Obama under your own name, > so I won't comment on that. And as to a young person's insecurities > re how they might best "fit in" with a world which for them is defined > by all sorts of mis-matching pieces (single mom, absent dad, > stepfather, Indonesia, absent mom, living with different race > grandparents in Hawaii), I can easily cut him some slack for that. (As > an aside, look at the monikers that folks who post here use as one > marker of how they try to "fit in".) > > L.Shaddai's remarks, both his original post and subsequent replies, > contained clear and offensive indicators that he believes "blacks" are > inferior and debased; he was not expressing concern for the well- being > of others. > > Your own remarks that folks should refrain from giving their children > names that have charm or cultural significance within the community > with which they identify, because that can be used to discriminate > against them, has the argument all turned around. They're only names, > not metrics of value (unless that's your shorthand for judging > people). The larger community has to learn to look at the person, not > succumb to prejudice. To encourage all the young "Baracks" in America > to change their name to "Barry" so they'll fit in, is entirely the > wrong message and one sent to the wrong party. > > Although racism is still a given in this country, it's changing and > yielding towards the American ideal of meritocracy; an ideal that I'm > positive you hold. > > Thanks for taking the time to address the issue. > > Marek > > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > One more thing to add to what I wrote below: > > > > A certain someone preferred to use the name "Barry" for the first 20 > > or so years of his life because he felt uncomfortable with the given > > name on his birth certificate. Perhaps that tells us something > about > > interacting in America with a name considered a wee bit out of the > > ordinary. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > > <reavismarek@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pal, that (below) is a racist statement, plain and simple. It's > > > > reprehensible and you are entirely wrong in the sentiment you > > > express. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marek: > > > > > > Several months ago I made a statement here on this forum about > > Blacks > > > having an advantage over other races on the basketball court. I > > got > > > several responses that the statement was racist (and also several > > > that agreed with the statement). > > > > > > Of course, I then revealed that it wasn't ME who actually said it > > but > > > Barack Obama and I had made it seem as if I said it just to make a > > > point. I then provided a link to a video of him saying it. > > > > > > Except for I-am-the-eternal using the word "all" as in "black guys > > > and black women in the US all have to have their own cult names", > I > > > am at a loss as to why what he wrote is "racist". Certainly, it > > is, > > > at most, equally racist and, at least, much less racist than what > > > Obama said about Blacks and basketball. > > > > > > The observation about unique names in the Black Community is not > > and > > > should not be a taboo subject. Indeed, it was the subject of one > > of > > > those newsmagazine shows (20/20? Primetime? Dateline NBC?) a > while > > > back. The premise of the show? The naming phenomenon in the > Black > > > Community often creates huge problems for those kids when they > grow > > > up and try to get jobs. In fact, it provides an opportunity for > > > racists to practise their racism. > > > > > > As a lawyer you know that there are laws against requiring someone > > to > > > put a photograph on Resume's or identifying "race" when applying > > for > > > a job. Yet the "ghetto name" phenomenon is such that that is used > > as > > > an identifying marker by potential employees NOT to hire blacks > and > > > to do it with impunity. > > > > > > A white racist reading a resume submitted from a "Shaneequah > > > Washington" can reject the application and not risk being accused > > of > > > prejudice. > > > > > > That I-am-the-eternal dares to broach this subject shows not only > > > sensitivity on his part but I suggest genuine concern for African- > > > Americans. > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/caonfg > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=black+names > > > > > > http://www.blackghettobabynames.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal > > <L.Shaddai@> > > > > wrote: > > > > **snip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I'm sure it's no coincidence that black guys and black > > women > > > in > > > > the US > > > > > all have to have their own cult names. So not only can you > > spot > > > > someone on > > > > > the phone with the black variant of the southern accident, you > > > can > > > > spot 'em > > > > > by their name as well. > > > > > > > > > > If only black mothers gave as much consideration to how they > > will > > > > rear a > > > > > child they've just spawned as they give to coming up with a > > > unique > > > > name for > > > > > the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
