--- In [email protected], "matrixmonitor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---Well spoken!...(below,) we all have multiple "selves"; a concept
> more consistent with the Buddhist notion of "components" rather than
> the Hindu concept of a "jiva" or reincarnating Soul. 

To follow up on this some more, I find this idea of
"components" liberating.  If part of the enlightenment
game is to get over the identification with self and 
its attempts to be important, it just feels easier for 
me to think of identifying less each day with different 
"components" than it does to think of identifying less 
with something concrete and fixed like a "self."

But to be honest, this subject makes some people bristle.
You'd be amazed how uptight some people, even within 
spiritual circles, get at the idea that there might not
be an individual soul, or self, that even within the 
illusion of Maya, we might just all be sharing different 
interactive, unindividualized component selves.

For me this uptightness or uneasiness is itself the 
assertion of the self, even within traditions that 
ostensibly are seeking to transcend that self.  Even 
seekers who are committed to the full-time pursuit of 
Self and the transcendence of self prefer to believe that 
there is only *one* of those selves in there -- a jiva, 
a soul, one entity that must be transcended.  Go figure.

Pragmatically, I've tended to find that spiritual trad-
itions who believe strongly that there is no fixed self
or individual jiva have an easier time leaving the set
of components that make you *believe* there is an indi-
vidual self behind than those who firmly believe that 
there really is one -- and only one -- self to leave 
behind.

Unc

P.S.  Slightly related one-liner:  "Paranoid schizo-
phrenics outnumber their enemies at least two to one."  :-)






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