--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000" <steve.sundur@> 
> wrote:
> 
> I was touched by this [lurkernomore's post] and by Judy's 
> sincere post. This is real live shit. 

For the record, so was I. 

I don't feel that I am qualified to offer any
specific advice, so instead I'll write about one
of my favorite words, and why I think it might be
applicable to the situation that many, if not
*most* of us find ourselves in right now.

That word is "humiliation."

Most people, these days, think of it in terms of
its more modern meaning, "to be reduced to a lower 
position others' eyes." But that's not its original
meaning. The etymology of the word is from the Latin
humiliatus, past participle of humiliare, from Latin 
word humilis, meaning "low." 

"Humiliation" dates from 1534, when it was used by
Christian monks (whose religious language was Latin)
to refer to a process of "becoming humble," of being
"reduced to a lower position in one's OWN eyes," 
not those of others. They saw this as a Good Thing,
and so do I. 

We find ourselves in "interesting times." With *very*
few exceptions on this forum, most of us are "workin'
folks." And like most workin' folks on this planet,
most of us are two paychecks away from living on the
street. 

Most of us *ignore* this reality most of the time. 
It's not a comfortable thing to live with at the 
forefront of one's brain. But during times like 
these, it edges closer and closer TO the forefront 
of our brains, and reminds us of our *real* 
importance in life.

And we're not alone. The wizards of Wall Street who
used to refer to themselves as the "Lords of the
Universe" now are starting to wonder whether *they*
will have jobs a year from now. Those of us "down in
the trenches" are starting to wonder whether we will
have jobs next week.

And I'm one of them. I have been working for a wonder-
ful French company for the last five years, and hoped
to work for them until I retired. But that company 
was recently bought by IBM, and IBM has so far said
not a fuckin' word about whether contractors will be
"kept on" or not. So this whole recession thang 
affects me, too. At any moment I could be out of a 
job. Fortunately, because I live frugally and have
no debt, I'm a couple of years away from living on
the street, not a couple of months, but basically I
am in the same position as an auto worker who fears
being laid off or anyone else who fears that their
source of income will "dry up." 

And does this worry me, does it sometimes erode my
self confidence and get me down? Betcher booties, as
someone here likes to say. :-)

At the same time, when this happens I try to remember
the Latin origin of the word "humiliation" and remind
myself that this is all a Good Thing, something that
is reminding me of my *real* importance, or lack
thereof. I'm ORDINARY.

The "Laws Of Nature" do NOT necessarily "support" me.
God is NOT necessarily "on my side." The "system" is
NOT necessarily going to "take care of me." If the
shit hits the fan, I'm going to be as covered with 
shit as everyone else. 

And that helps to remind me to be a little more humble.
But it *also* serves to remind me that I AM NOT ALONE.

People who consider themselves the "Lords of the Uni-
verse" or having the "support of Nature" often tend
to be egoistic loners. They don't really NEED other
people, because things are going so well for them 
*without* other people. It's often only when the shit 
hits the fan that we realize that other people -- our
friends and fellow seekers -- are a far more important
resource than that paycheck. 

If we avoid the psychic depression that accompanies
an economic depression, most of us can remember our
strengths, and find some new way to put those strengths 
to use, and "with a little help from our friends," not 
only "get by," but do so with some grace. 

One of the reasons I have enjoyed this thread is that
it "bucks the trend" of the TMO, and of many spiritual
and social structures. So *MUCH* of the TMO mindset
was about not *admitting* that we got depressed from
time to time, or that our job security was precarious.

In a way, it was like that old L.A. joke. Guy says
to another guy, "What do you do for a living?" He says,
"I'm an actor." First guy says, "Oh...what restaurant?"
That joke is a joke because it reflects the sad reality 
of being an actor -- most of them are out of work most
of the time, but none of them are ever *allowed* to 
admit that they're not working as actors right now. 
Similarly, in the TMO people were generally not 
*allowed* to admit that they were less than the perfect
members of the perfect society, all of which was work-
ing quite perfectly, thank you.

I think it's a "step forward" that we can both *admit*
that sometimes not everything works perfectly, and
step forward to help our friends and fellow seekers
when that happens. There is *humility* in both sides
of this equation, and not an ounce of "humiliation"
in its degraded modern meaning.



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