--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> 
> > I just think the whole objection is vastly overblown
> > and highly artificial and largely motivated by 
> > resentment, not concern for the students.
> 
> I don't think reducing the points I have made in this
> discussion as being somehow motivated by some negitive
> emotion does justice to the points made.

I'm saying it seems to me the points are way too 
weak to support such determined opposition.

> I am not objecting for emotional reasons. I have
> given you the intellectual reasons why I believe TM
> is religious and I'm sure I don't have to make a
> case with you why religion shouldn't be promoted in
> schools do I?

No. But just because *you* think it's religious isn't
enough to make me nervous about it.

> It is a very important topic unless you don't care
> if schools end up with "creation science" sharing
> the classroom with evolutionary theory.

Allowing TM plus SCI, as in the New Jersey case, 
could be a dangerous precedent in that regard (even
though I don't agree that SCI is really religious
in nature). But I don't think it's nearly so likely
with just TM, especially with Lynch in charge.

> I disagree with your assessment of the religious nature
> of TM, but am not inclined to sum up your POV as the
> result of some negitive emotional state.  We just
> disagree on the religious nature of TM instruction.
> This doesn't surprise me because you didn't spend many
> weeks bowing down to the floor to a picture of Maharishi's
> dead guru after invoking divine and semi divine Gods in
> the Hindu religion.(Vyasa is 3/4 Vishnu don't ya know.)
> It is easier for you to ignore its religious roots.

So if I can ignore its "religious roots," why can't
the kids? Curtis, your experiences as a TM teacher
are a big fat red herring here. TMers don't have to
do any of that unless they decide to become teachers.

> My concern is for the principle of separating religious
> teaching from publicly funded schools because of the
> aggressive nature of evangelical groups trying to pass
> off their religious beliefs as science.

I share that concern, as I've said many times. That's
why I support the New Jersey decision. But again, that
was TM *plus SCI*, which is a whole 'nother kettle of
fish, it seems to me. Just-plain-TM--with Lynch keeping
a watchful eye--simply doesn't rise to that level of
concern, IMHO.


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