--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > Note something interesting: those former TMers and former TM teachers who > > agree > > that "Benson's Relaxation Response" is the same as TM or that any ole yoga > > meditation > > teacher can impart the "secret" of the TM technique, are the same set as > > those > > claiming that MMY does NOT impart anything unique or valueable via his TM > > course. > > > > Ever check the meditation of someone doing another technique? Ever take a > class with people learning a relaxation self hypnosis technique and ask a > bunch of them to describe their experiences in detail? Those are the > experiences that lead me to believe what I claimed. I know there is an EEG > angle on all this which as a direction of research I respect although I'm not > sure I buy the TM conclusions before we know what it means or their sincerity > in testing other techniques. But we don't check people's meditation by > hooking them up to machines, we just ask them some simple questions. And > their descriptions aren't that deep or complex. It is easy, yes? > > It is really hard to both relax and concentrate. Most people I talked to > fell into the style of repetition that Maharishi makes such a big deal about > naturally. The type of compulsive personality type who might be inclined to > use effort while relaxing also had difficulty with TM in my experience and > needed lots of long checking sessions to get them off it. But most people > just chill out with a chill out technique, so much of this discussion of > effort seems to be a moot point practically. The approach is kind of > contained in what most people think of with relaxation or even meditation.
which doesn't address what I said in the slightest. You appear to believe that Benson's Relaxation Response is the same as TM.... Lawson
