--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> You are semi right here Rory. I was the first to mention Kerry  when 
defining 
> the word casualty. I said the word casualty didn't necessarily  mean 
death 
> but could be any wound needing medical attention requiring just a  
band aid to a 
> death certificate. The Kerry comment about his purple hearts was  an 
example 
> of how minor a casualty statistic could be.

Right you are! To which Judy replied (IIRC) to the effect that in this 
context, casualties clearly meant deaths.

 I would still  like to see hard 
> numbers about civilian casualties in Iraq and what  the extent if 
the casualty 
> was. 

So would I.

I would also like to know how many casualties  are attributed to 
> terrorists resisting the will of the Iraqi people to set up a  
democracy.

These last appear to be somewhat loaded terms. Are permanent American 
bases in Iraq part of "the will of the Iraqi people to set up a 
democracy?" Is one man's "freedom-fighter" another's "terrorist"? Is 
it a democracy if it is brought in from the outside on the point of a 
gun? It certainly doesn't sound like freedom, at any rate. It *does* 
sound rather like an expansion of an American oil-empire, however :-)




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