--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Post of the month, maybe of the year. Comment below. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. You are probably the only one arising from the rabble of FFLife > > > who thinks so. But I'll take the compliment. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > TM cannot exist without the TMO. Warts and all, it > > > > > is the only organization capable of teaching TM so > > > > > that it remains TM, a simple mental technique, > > > > > rather than some watered down version that loses its > > > > > effectiveness. Maharishi's great gift to the world > > > > > was a systematic way to allow the mind to transcend. > > > > > > > > > > IMO the foundation of Maharishi's worldwide TMO is > > > > > secure enough to endure leadership foibles and > > > > > growing pains just as it always has. It will always > > > > > have detractors, saints, dummies and TM teachers off > > > > > the reservation who will teach, who knows what. > > > > > Regardless, the TMO is the only reliable glue that > > > > > can hold the teaching of TM together in perpetuity > > > > > or at least for a very long time. > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > The argument can certainly be made that the TMO > > > > shouldn't be a crusading, messianic organization, > > > > but that's how its founder saw it from the very > > > > beginning, and there isn't really anything that > > > > can be done about it now; it isn't going to change > > > > in that regard. > > > > > > I don't believe Maharishi thought of the TMO as a crusading, messianic > > > organization. Certainly, these are loaded words meant to malign. But, no. > > > In the early days, it was more like, he had a bunch of unkempt hippies on > > > TTC who needed direction, structure, discipline and routine, if he hoped > > > to hone their ability to teach with any requisite precision. Undoubtedly, > > > discipline and routine will evoke rigidity and extremism in extremist > > > personalities, (usually Fascists or Communists) but so what. > > > Organizations must remain organized or disband. < > > > > Did you ever spend a lot of time around Maharishi, Raunch? I'm not asking > > whether you were in the audience at TTC (come to think of it, were you ever > > trained as a teacher?) or an SCI course or something.....but did you ever > > work closely with MMY? > > > > I was always amused when I would get back in the states and hear meditators > > complaining about TMO weirdness. It was always "if Maharishi only knew what > > was going on, he would fix all of this!" I'd chuckle and be a good little > > soldier and keep my mouth shut but the truth, as Rick or Barry or basically > > anyone here who ever worked with MMY knows, is that Maharishi was in on > > EVERYTHING that went down. He was the ultimate control freak. > > > > So you can blame "extremism" on extremist personalities but you better > > include Maharishi as the MOST extreme since he was basically at the heart > > of everything that went on. > > > > The rajas....the ridiculous costumes, every bit of weirdness emanating out > > of Vlodrop for years was not the work of a few extreme personalities. It > > was the work of one extreme personality. The underlings just execute the > > will of the master. > > > > Maharishi as the leader and full architect of a crusading, messianic > > organization? You better believe it! > > > > Just as Judy says, this point is arguable. I was on the PAC Pal Vedic Atom. > We spent four months with Maharishi in India 1980-81 and saw him just about > every day, morning and evening. Images and events about that experience > remain clearly engraved in memory. Talk about culture shock. India...there is > no place like it on earth, so strange and beautiful. Straight away, I felt > out of place wearing western clothes. I bought a bunch of saris and that is > all I wore, and still I felt out of place. It was like wearing clothes that > belonged to someone else. I felt clumsy and awkward. I constantly stepped or > tripped on the hem or had difficulty with the end piece that was supposed to > remain gracefully draped over my shoulder. My incredibly delicate shoulder > drapery often found its way into my food. Try as I may I could never have > fit into an Indian culture in a million years. > > Maharishi is a product of his culture and he was true to it. We could not > have expected anything otherwise. He did not fit into our culture and he > never asked anyone to fit into his. Whether he wanted to weigh Tony in gold > or have men wearing golden tiaras and tutus, it doesn't matter one whit in > the larger scheme of things. The only thing he ever wanted from us as > teachers was to teach TM as he instructed through the TMO. The TMO is not a > messianic organization. Rather, it is a product of Maharishi's good sense and > planning, interleaved and inseparable from his unique culture. >
The TMO is a "product of Maharishi's good sense". Now there's a quote! And he" never asked anyone to fit into his" culture. That's rich Raunch. I would hardly know where to begin with either idea, so outlandishly wrong headed are they. But it's always nice to know where folks here are coming from.
