> > > Actually, I think you're right Judy. After reading Williams 
> > > post it does jar my mind that what she said was more like She 
> > > didn't KNOW he was a Christian simply because he said he was 
> > > one, implying that he might be saying that for political 
> > > expediency, which I had also thought and perhaps expressed.
> > 
> > And since Hillary said it, it's an axiom.
> >
Judy wrote:
> > Therefore, the next time someone says, "I
> > never lie," or "I am not a True Believer,"
> > there is no reason to believe them simply
> > because they say it about themselves. One
> > is free to come to one's own conclusions
> > based on their behavior.
> 
> Right. Except that what she *actually* said was:
> 
> "You know, I take him on the basis of what he
> says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to
> doubt that....No. No. Why would I? No, there is
> nothing to base that on, as far as I know."
> 
> Oooooopsie! Exactly the opposite of what Mike
> claims she said.
> 
Not exactly - Hillary did say "As far as I know."
which indicates that she doesn't know for sure.

As far as she knows, he could be a Muslim saying
that he is a Christian, for political purposes.

This wouldn't be the first time a politician 
said something like that. You're a case in point;
you said you were not a Christian, but as far as
I know you could be a Christian. 

So, it's not *exactly* that Hillary knows that 
Obama is a Christian. 

Turq says he is not a Buddhist, but in the past 
he said he was a Buddhist. So, Turq is not 
exactly a Buddhist, but he may be a Buddhist
if he says he is.

Obama could be a Muslim or a Christian or even
a Buddhist, if I say he is. You can't prove me
wrong if I say you're a Christian and you can't
prove you're not a Christian.

> > There are many cases of people following
> > the Hillary Axiom on this forum. For example,
> > both Vaj and I have said many times that we
> > are not Buddhists, even though we have both
> > studied Buddhist teachings. And yet Raunchy
> > and Nabby and enlightened_dawn11 and others
> > continue to refer to us as Buddhists. Clearly
> > they believe strongly in the Hillary Axiom.
> 
> Clearly Barry believes strongly in the (faux)
> Hillary Axiom, since he simply accepts what
> Mike says Hillary said without question, even
> though the transcript of what she *actually*
> said has been posted here many times, including
> by me yesterday and again above.
> 
> > Hillary rules. 
> > 
> > Remember Her words (capitalizing Her holy 
> > name as Mike did above) and live by them.
> > Just because someone says something about
> > what he or she believes, it is not necessary
> > to believe them.
> >
>

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