--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ------Actually, until you have taken Dzogchen teachings you really
> can't speak on effortlessness, surrender, or simplicity.
Actually, as should be obvious, one *can* speak about
such things, and even sound somewhat authoritative
while doing so, but it's only because they're repeating
the words of someone whom they consider an "authority."
And in this case (TM's effortlessness as unique), an
"authority" who is as ignorant of other teachings and
other techniques of meditation as they are.
Jumping out of the TM context and into a more general
perception of the spiritual smorgasbord as a whole, a
trend you can pretty much count on is that the people
who diss other traditions' teachings and techniques the
loudest have 1) never had any experience with the things
they're dissing, and 2) haven't even *read* much about
them. In 99 cases out of 100, they are repeating dogma
that has been taught to them. And in many long-lived
traditions, this dogma was taught to them by guys who
*themselves* were simply repeating what had been taught
to them, and had an equal lack of experience with the
things they're dissing.
One of the things I like about this forum is that it's
attracted a lot of people who are not content to believe
what has been told to them by "authorities." They like
to find things out for themselves. As the home page
states, "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but
the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite."
Unc
I do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the men of old;
I seek the things they sought.
- Basho
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