--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Most mature, intelligent, college educated adults are
> in stage 5. They can take multiple perspectives
> regarding the same thing and understand several
> courses of action. They see the value of social laws,
> but also recognize there are individual situations and
> circumstances where these laws need to be
> transgressed. Culties are in stage 4 and think they
> are in stage 6. By the way, MMY's behavior puts him in
> stage 1(moral reasoning dictated by avoidance of
> punishment). Go figure.

I figure you're in a bad mood, Peter.

"Stage 1 Punishment/Obedience - Consequentialism.
This stage is characterized by avoidance of
punishment and unquestioning deference to power
as values in themselves. Simple Hedonism."

You think MMY gives "unquestioning deference
to power"?

And how do you reconcile his dictum "Don't do
anything you think might be wrong" with stage 1?
Sounds to me like stage 5--"a recognition of the
relative nature of personal values"--if not
stage 6, or even Ken Wilber's stage 7, "where
univeral concern for humanity is combined with
a concern for all nature--identification is
broadened to the universe itself, care is held
for all nature in a manner such that one cares
for the universe around him just as another
cares for his own body" (which could conceivably
involve taking actions that appear to demonstrate
lack of concern for individuals or individual
segments of humanity).

He does tend to run the organization as if he
thought its personnel were at the lower levels,
though.





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