--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <snip> > > Most mature, intelligent, college educated adults > are > > in stage 5. They can take multiple perspectives > > regarding the same thing and understand several > > courses of action. They see the value of social > laws, > > but also recognize there are individual situations > and > > circumstances where these laws need to be > > transgressed. Culties are in stage 4 and think > they > > are in stage 6. By the way, MMY's behavior puts > him in > > stage 1(moral reasoning dictated by avoidance of > > punishment). Go figure. > > I figure you're in a bad mood, Peter. > > "Stage 1 Punishment/Obedience - Consequentialism. > This stage is characterized by avoidance of > punishment and unquestioning deference to power > as values in themselves. Simple Hedonism." > > You think MMY gives "unquestioning deference > to power"? > > And how do you reconcile his dictum "Don't do > anything you think might be wrong" with stage 1? > Sounds to me like stage 5--"a recognition of the > relative nature of personal values"--if not > stage 6, or even Ken Wilber's stage 7, "where > univeral concern for humanity is combined with > a concern for all nature--identification is > broadened to the universe itself, care is held > for all nature in a manner such that one cares > for the universe around him just as another > cares for his own body" (which could conceivably > involve taking actions that appear to demonstrate > lack of concern for individuals or individual > segments of humanity). > > He does tend to run the organization as if he > thought its personnel were at the lower levels, > though. That's why I added the "Go figure". I think Kohlberg's model of moral reasoning is pretty much based on Western assumptions of morality and runs into problems with people like MMY. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
