--- In [email protected], "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > - Some of us have seen glimpses of them at work- doesn't > > take too much to verify that they must be possible. > > > > - After 32 years, still waiting for verification > > Hoping something turns up soon. > From my observation,I would say it is there but often > goes unnoticed.
Either that, or there is no verification possible because nothing is happening or will ever happen, and the seeker is wasting his life waiting for it to happen. > good luck. Indeed. FWIW, the "energy signature" of what Maharishi called the sidhis has nothing whatsoever to do with the energy signature of actual siddhis being performed in my experience. Not even apples and oranges...more like apples (real siddhis) and Tinkertoys. No relation whatsoever. I am not the only person who noticed this. There were at least three dozen former TM sidhas in Rama's study, and we'd often discuss the difference. All felt the same way. One "phenomenon" involved the mental repetition of some English-language phrases from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras and the other involved no mantras, no phrases, and no techniques, only the ability to actually manifest the phenomena in question. And the interesting thing is that the latter could be taught to others without words, without the use of mantras or phrases, and without the need for techniques, using only transmission. YMMV. But unless you have actually experienced siddhis being manifested externally (so that others could witness them, not "internally," which can be nothing more than moodmaking), your "mileage" has no basis for comparison. Mine and the "mileage" of the 30-40 former TM sidhas does. If you disagree, find and post a quote from someone who represents a legitimate spiritual tradition other than the TM movement who believes that what Maharishi sold as the "sidhis" have any relationship to actual siddhis, or what Patanjali was writing about. I'd be interested in seeing such a quote, and don't remember ever having seen one. don't know that such quotes do not exist, but I suspect that they do not. And if they don't, then it seems to me that those who believe that TM sidhis are really siddhis are basing their entire view of the subject on one word -- "Maharishisez." Is that enough to constitute "truth" in your view? It's OK if it is, blind faith being unchallengable and all that, but wouldn't it be more honest to admit that faith in "Maharishisez" is your only reason for believing that the TM sidhis are what they were sold as being?
