--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "svenssonjack" <svenssonj...@...> wrote: > > I am not trying to make any case for anyone.
I was replying to Bill.Hicks.It's.Just.A.Ride. > I merely referred to this change in policy as concerns > group meditation at MUM and my consequent surprise when > hearing it. I don't see why you should express surprise. Do the math. Where is the *income* from having group meditations for people who have already paid for TM or in touting the relatively-low- priced (by TMO standards) TM technique when one can tout the considerably more expensive TM-sidhis? > I am an ex-sidha / meditator. When I went to MIU in the > early 90s, you always did your program in groups. I do > not know whether the policy has now changed for sidhas > as well, but I would not think so. > > And, finally, to reply to your pointed elaboration : Yes, > I was finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars > (1700 USD to be precise if my memeory serves me right) > to learn a few phrases in English that I could have gotten > from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras. > That is tragic in itself, but a different story. I really wasn't trying to take a "dig" at you, in any way. I was merely taking advantage of the bringing up the "shift" in emphasis from "mere" TM to the TM sidhis to remind people here of something that the vast majority of them REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE REMINDED OF. For most people I knew in the TMO, there was a profound moment of cognitive dissonance the moment that they *realized* that they'd been snookered into paying several thousand dollars for *literally* the same phrases they could have found in a $3.95 paperback. However, for most of those people, their *next* response was to "stuff" that moment of cognitive dissonance and try their best to never think of it consciously, ever again. You see it here daily, as people still speak of the TM-sidhis as if they were something magical and special. But *without exception*, everyone knows that they are not. It's just thinking a few buzzphrases that they could have gotten for $3.95. An honest person could *admit*, both to themselves and to the world, that that is what they paid sev- eral thousand dollars for. A less honest person might try to keep that information hidden and even try to make it appear to be mystical or magical in some way, so that new generations of suckers could be bilked as they were. Just sayin'... > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" > > <bill.hicks.all.a.ride@> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, svenssonjack <svenssonjack@>wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM > > > > Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate > > > > in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is > > > > suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance > > > > policy. > > > > > > I disagree. TM meditation has been considered next to > > > useless since the early 1980s. Maharishi made such a > > > big thing of the sidhis and of sidhas doing program > > > together that the status of TM meditators was diminished. > > > I learned the sidhis because I had enjoyed going to the TM > > > center and to residence courses. Everything for mere > > > meditators got cut down tremendously. There was a residence > > > course at MIU, for example, perhaps twice a year. The > > > purpose of those two residence courses was to convince > > > the meditators to become sidhas. So if you wanted to even > > > watch a tape, you had to become a sidha because increasingly > > > the tapes were for sidhas only. > > > > So let me try to get this straight. > > > > You were finally convinced to pay several thousand > > dollars to learn a few phrases in English that you > > could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation > > of the Yoga Sutras because the above machinations on > > the part of the TMO had convinced you that the only > > way to continue doing the things you enjoyed about > > the TMO -- residence courses and group meditations -- > > was to pay more money and become a "siddha?" > > > > Can you explain further? It sounds to me on the basis > > of what you describe above as if you're trying to make > > a case for "sidhas" being too stupid to realize that > > they've been had. > > >
